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News EA to loosen Spore install restrictions

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 17 Sep 2008.

  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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  2. ChaosDefinesOrder

    ChaosDefinesOrder Vapourmodder

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    Unfortunately for EA, there's absolutely nothing they can do to rescue this situation other than remove SecureROM from the game completely. This should serve as a lesson that they can't get away with it. Of course it's wishful thinking that they'll actually learn their lesson...

    "EA has renewed the pledge that if the online authentication servers were ever deactivated for any of their games then a patch would be released beforehand to ensure players can still continue to enjoy the game"

    Pfft - This just shows that they don't need to have it there in the first place, and therefore makes it even worse! Hype it all you want, EA, demonstrating that they don't HAVE to have online activation just goes further to alienate your intended market.
     
  3. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    sure, the number of those installing it at this time on more than one computer at the same time is low, what that statisitc doesnt show though is reinstalling after reformatting hdd due to hdd / mainboard upgrade or data corruption which will eat up the install limit over the time.
     
  4. Silver51

    Silver51 I cast flare!

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    Sadly, this won't affect the bulk of their sales. Not everyone is a technician. People's mum's, grandparents, kids et al will still clear out shelves of the game faster than a tray of magic cookies at a music festival.
     
  5. badders

    badders Neuken in de Keuken

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    Well I'm not really surprised - it's only been out a week.
    the 0.5 percent who tried to activate on more than 3 machines must either be REALLY unlucky, or were testing the activation limit.

    Expect those figures to rise significantly as the next 51 weeks pass, THEN see what EA has to say on the matter.
     
  6. Tyrmot

    Tyrmot New Member

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    Yes exactly, the attitude here should be 1% *already* - and in fact EA have said that 25% *already* have used 2 installs, and this game has only jut come out! I think you can expect to see a lot of pi44ed off customers coming over the horizon....

    And now that Red Alert 3 has secuROM, that's another sale lost from me (4 and counting now...). Good going EA
     
  7. Paradigm Shifter

    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    Those statistics are anything but reassuring. :(

    Although I do wonder just how many non-tech people will hit the activation limit over the next year or so, and then silently go out and buy another copy when they get told to by the activation program...
     
  8. bowman

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    'One thing that is a bit surprising though is that, according to a recent EA survey based on a customer sample, the number of users who even try to install the game on three different systems is tiny - making up only one percent of the actual market.'

    Well that sure is a valid metric right after it's been released.. What about when these people get new PCs, or format, or whatever? I could almost, _almost_ understand this BS if it was 3 _simultaneous_ installations or something. But 3 registrations, in a row, from the same user, and then you're reduced to begging EA Customer Service, over international phone charges, on a 'case by case basis'? Pure unadulterated ********.
     
  9. impar

    impar Well-Known Member

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    Greetings!
    By parts and quoting the MTV article:
    Ok, so a Spore gamer has now five activations credits for his/her Spore DVD, may be able in the "near future" to de-activate and recover activations credits and, if he/she ever needs a sixth credit, all he/she needs to contact EA Support and ask politely for the activation.

    Whats the point in limiting activations, then?
    On the number of activations in different computers, Mass Effect is 3 month old and Spore is two weeks old. I really didnt expected those games to have used that many activations.
    Would like to know these numbers in the future, though.
    With hardware changes triggering activations and gamers switching computers the numbers may look quite different.

    Its just an EAs excuse.
    So, a sampling that allows for objective conclusions or a sampling that skews the data towards EAs interpretation?
    Besides the blatant FUD towards torrenting, my question is: can Securom be removed easily? If not, its malware.
    EA has no excuse here. Misprint or not a game that can be played by the entire family (hardcore or casual gamers) should allow for multiple profiles.
    A patch is applied to an already installed game, if/when EA decides to close the authentication servers, how will you be able to even install the game?

    PS: My grapes are still sour, Joe Martin.
    (Whatever that expression means. :confused:)
     
  10. steveo_mcg

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    "EA has renewed the pledge that if the online authentication servers were ever deactivated for any of their games then a patch would be released beforehand to ensure players can still continue to enjoy the game"

    And ea's word is its bond... :rolleyes:

    Promises from companies aren't worth the electrons they're displayed with.
     
  11. BlackMage23

    BlackMage23 RPG Loving Freak

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    What did they think was going to happen. Pirates always find a way around protection systems, so they are only hurting legit customers.
     
  12. Leitchy

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    To late, I am on my maiden voyage of pirate martyrdom. I hope they learn there lesson for Red Alert 3!!!
     
  13. plagio

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    I don't care about statistics. If I buy a game it means I own the game and I am free to do whatever I want with it. We are not talking about making copies of the game or stuff like that (which should be allowed as well) , we are talking about installing a legitimate copy we purchased as many times as we want. This is renting not buying.

    And again, people who purchased the game have these restrictions not the people who torrented the game. Isn't this crazy ? To fight piracy they give issues to the people that bought the game whilst the people with pirated copies are fine. Is it me or this is wrong and a change in strategies is required ?
     
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    this is a huge load of FUD!

    the game is in its usage infancy and these statistics tell me that things are starting to go wrong.... PLUS, all those people that refuse to buy it because of their usage patterns.... if EA does the same thing with RA3, they can bet it will sell really bad.
     
  15. Star*Dagger

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    Uh, too late.

    Between the reviews and the DRM issues I will not buy, nor will I recommend to the people who ask me about it.
    EA lost several hundred sales from me alone.

    Wonder if they will clue in.

    Yours in Fervently Anti-DRM Plasma,
    Star*Dagger
     
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    I really hope they release RA3 with all the security whistles and bells. And then I will sit back with a bowl of popcorn and beer watching the Anarchy and Chaos immerse...
     
  17. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    You sound like the kind of guy that people should be warned about.
     
  18. Star*Dagger

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    110% correct!

    Most of the time i travel Cloaked... No warning.

    LOL

    S*D
     
  19. TGImages

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    I was prepared to buy it right at release... or even pre order it... however I have yet to see any discounts. That alone may be accounting for some of the piracy too. In my case I'll just wait awhile and see what happens. Perhaps I can find one on ebay in 6 months that has only 1 instal against it and isn't going for retail! Then again that brings up an interesting situation for the secondary market. If you've used your 3 installs (or whatever the new count is), how can you sell it if/when you get bored with it? It will be basically useless to the buyer unless they are willing to call EA everytime they want to install. I really can't see how EA thought this through in any way. I almost feel bad for Wil as he put a lot into this game and EA is messing it up on him. I hope he got paid upfront.
     
  20. Dannythemusicman

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    My impression is that a lot of people who did not previously consider downloading a pirated copy have now done so, and are thus more likely to pirate more games in the future... that in my opinion is where the real damage has been done. EA aren't the ones affected here as they can cope with the hit, but smaller publishers may feel the hit in future.
     
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