News EA: We've maxed out the Xbox 360

Same here.

Look at EA's Need For Speed Pro Street running at 30 fps on console compared to 'Codemasters' Race Driver : GRID running at 30 fps on consoles. EA developers don't push boundaries at all.

Another thing, if we look at facts, then the PS3 will reach graphical potential before the 360, as the 360 is just a fraction more powerful.

When developers talk about the advanced power in the PS3 they are usually refering to the Central Processor (Cell). But the problem is that most games are not CPU intensive, but instead heavily graphics intensive. So most of this cpu 'potential' will probably go to waste. The PS3's GPU is slightly less powerful than the 360's, which partly explains why most multiplatform games look slightly better on 360.

It worries me to think that Sony are seriously looking at a 10-year life cycle for the PS3. Do they realize how ancient the PS3 will look by then? They won't be able use bluray as a selling point like in the past, because most people will have more advanced bluray RECORDERS and most PCs will have relatively cheap bluray playing drives and recorders.

Either graphical advancement in the games industry will stagnate and PC games will suffer by being held back for the next 8 years, or developers will scale the PC versions of multiplatform games to look many times more advanced than the PS3. To be honest, I cannot imagine Sony or Microsoft not releasing another console within the next few years. Graphically they have both, more or less, already reached their potential. Imagine being stuck with the same level for 10 years.

 

The Orange Box and RE5 for PS3 come to mind (or w/e the latest resident evil is) games, both suffer from quite a few graphical issues.

 

What, you mean the 360 cant handle the annual minor upgrades to sports games, movie tie-ins and sequels to games made using the same engine as the previous one?
Maybe EA should spend more time developing games rather than just marketing and securing exclusive rights to sports and movie tie-ins.

 

I believe MS have been planning their next console for some time (as has Sony). The 360 4 years old this year so it's not really that surprising that the 360 is reaching it's limit, I believe they stated it was going to be 5 years before they release another console so I imagine they'll be releasing one the end of next year or the year after that, or at least announcing it. I hope they don't completely kill of support for it like they did with the xbox.

 

They said, at E3, the product life for the 360 is 10 years, and that Natal would come at roughly year 5.

 

I still play psx occasionally - old school fun. still works fine, 10 years on. Sony tech is well built. Ive seen many a friend's xbox (incl original and 360) fail badly. Never had a failure with a sony product. I'm not a fan-boy - I wouldn't touch sony products outside of consoles.

 

I've definitely seen lag in some of the higher-end games, which I've always just attributed to the 360 actually hitting capacity on the quality of the scenery and such. Also, we now see more and more games that allow only 2 players per 360 in multiplayer etc, something I read they had to do to keep the graphics work down or risk overworking the system.

While consoles have taken huge leaps over time, their games have taken huge leaps too (more recently), and I expect consoles will have to be updated more and more often to follow the public's insatiable appetite for high quality video games. Not sure how they're going to keep prices down, however.

 

To EA: sorry but lard assed software doesn't count.

[Note, I have no idea if their Xbox software is truly lard assed, but I can't let an opportunity like this to slag on EA go by unused.]

 

If they do make a 720 anytime in the next 3 years, I hope for 1 thing:

No more X-Clamps!!.

for the PS4:

Lower price. + Cooler components.

 

The Cell can offload shading and lighting work as well as post processing effects, which can really hamper the GPUs fill rates and bandwidth, luckily the Xenos in the 360, has nearly unlimited memory bandwidth and AA/frame buffer comes for "free" due to the daughter die. In reality, there's almost no difference between them, except for the 360 multiplatform games will most likely have AA due to the daughter die.

Also, the main reason of multiplatforms looking between on the 360, than the PS3, would simply be how they pool the RAM, which is easier to access and 360 OS and overheard RAM takes FAR less than the PS3's OS, especially since the PS3's RAM isn't in a pool.

 

I would say Uncharted, from an artistic and technical point of view looks better than Gears of War, both the first and second, as well Heavenly Sword.

 

And both would look vastly superior to the same game if released on the Wii. Given your point was about how a majority of cross platform games look (and not play) I still think you need to either explain what you mean or realise it doesn't make sense.

 

Here the PS3 exclusives that seem to be most popular.

Gran Turismo 5
inFamous
Killzone 2
MAG
Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Agent
God of War III
Heavy Rain
The Last Guardian
ModNation Racers
The Agency (PS3/PC)

Here the X360 exclusives that seem to be most popular.

Forza 3
Halo 3:ODST
Halo Wars
Left 4 Dead 2
Splinter Cell: Conviction
Alan Wake
Crackdown 2
Halo: Reach
Mass Effect 2
APB


There are more for both but I just posted the ones that are most popular for both consoles as far as I know. On PS3 one game is also on PC. I'm not sure how many for 360 are also on PC.

For my personal preference PS3 has a much stronger lineup of exclusives. Though APB looks real good.

 

What?

Xbox has a way better games lineup althought I guess that's a matter of opinion.

Also in terms of RRoD they fixed the issue a while ago so If you buy one now you're unlikely to get it plus all you need to do is drop the box off at your local UPS depot which can't be more than a hour's drive wherever you live. Mine came back within two weeks and was a brand new console with 1 month of XBL for my troubles. Yes it's annoying but the support is good and it's no longer than waiting for an RMA on a vital computer part which go wrong just as often.

 

Given that Forza 2 made me want to sell my console, Alan Wake sounds like it is following Duke Nukem and Left4Dead was awful, the only thing I fancy on the 360 is Crackdown 2.

 

http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UuUWBvWbfI

http://www.google.com/search?q=ps3+...avclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS304US305

 

I would go to euro gamer for better comparisons, just google euro game face off round 19 and it has all the links.

 

Yea, there's lots and lots and lots of comparisons showing how graphically underwhelming the PS3 is compared to 360 on the same titles on the net, Google's your friend

 

All of the comparisons I've looked at have come out pretty much identical, save for a slight variation in contrast, which can be fixed using the TV's settings. When my 360 wasn't broken (rare occurrence), the graphics of any of the two dozen games I played on it never really blew me away.