@terrorbyt - Cant afford SSD ? /hate mode. People who hate SSD's are people who don't own one, can't afford one, or never even tried one.
In my opinion an SSD makes a bigger, most noticably better improvement to system speed than anything else you can buy. Its fine having an octo core i9 7.8ghz CPU with 8 x SLI GTX 690's if they can only drag information and load as fast as the HDD is capable of giving it. I think many peoples problem is that they are seeing SSD's as storage and I think thats the wrong view to have, at this stage they are to be used together with a SATA III HDD, install windows on it and frequently used programs and there you go! a bigger overall system improvement than a better CPU or more RAM could offer
I prefer the term devil's advocate but no, I'm not trying to annoy anyone. This is a build advice thread, and I was merely giving some advice. On a budget, SSDs are only worth the money if you don't game. If (like many) you only want to spend £500 on a PC, you limit yourself to what games you can play if you spend 20% of it on an SSD. It depends how you use your computer. I spend a majority of my time in word/eclipse and the rest gaming. I find the slowest part of my PC to be me. Buying an SSD would have meant getting a much cheaper graphics card and CPU which would be silly for me.
I wouldnt even consider building a machine these days without an SSD, the budget would have to find room for one, they are as essential as a good GPU/CPU in my opinion.
I guarantee you will change your conclusions once you actually experience an SSD in your system. You'll feel like you're finally not held back by your slow HDDs access times.
I can't argue with this as I've only ever used an SSD system a few times. I don't spend as long waiting for folders to open as you think. A vast majority of the time my drive sits there, idle.
But they've become so cheap now that you'd be mad not to pickup even a 60GB one for your boot drive. All newly built systems, with some small exceptions, should have an SSD in them now. I also don't think it's as simple as 'if you don't game they're worth it'. They make the whole experience better, and for such little cost now.
These are worth a look, desgined to be used with a HDD http://www.scan.co.uk/products/30gb...-s-ssd-cache-drive-read-280mb-s-write-250mb-s
I'm sure you're right, but I will wait a few years before I jump on board. This looks promising: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18103772
Equally; an SSD can help reduce power bills. But anyway; If you don't want to, you don't have to. I find an ordinary PC without an SSD midly annoying, simply because I'm used to being able to zip around my computer and find music without issues, waiting for my music just to load is painful after stuff behaves damn near instantly on a Solid State Drive. I suppose you could say SSDs have spoiled me, but at the end of the day; it's a wondeful improvement. The boot times don't fuss me, it's the sheer responsiveness of windows that makes it so much better, there's no time waiting for control panel to populate if I have to change something in there, either.
^Exactly, faster boot times are probably the last reason why I like them. I think it's people who've never tried them which use that point as if that's the only benefit you get from using them (lol). It's the overall responsiveness of the system, the speed at which you can open and close applications/folders, the speed at which it populates file searches, the multitasking smoothness etc etc, are what makes them so immense. You can do things much more quickly because you're not being held back by a mechanical head moving to where the data is located. Waiting a couple of years just means you're missing out on the benefits for longer .
Plus there's also the issue that most modern games also tend to start once the majority of the players have loaded; with SSD's becoming more commonplace; people are loading a heck of a lot faster. So in multiplayer; The game may have already kicked off before you can get in there. Anyway: It's up to you. The Value of SSDs is getting really damn good at the moment, I paid £110 for my 60GB OCZ Agility 3 not too long ago, and now you can get 120GB ssd's for almost half that, looks like a good improvement to my eyes.
I agree with the "SSDs are like monitors and mechanical keyboards". That's why I won't try one, it's to protect my wallet.
Actually, it is the point most referred to. Clearly you don't understand still. I do not sit around waiting for folders to open documents to load, as much as you may think I do, I don't. I spend far more time actually doing things. Believe me, if it were slow enough for me to notice I would buy one. As you've said many times before, prices have dropped steadily. If I had listened to you a year ago I would have paid an excess for something I don't need.
Yes, by people who've never used them. Something you think you don't need, but because you haven't properly experienced it you don't know. Anyway, there's no point arguing with someone like you. You'd have paid more but you'd have had the benefit of an SSD in your system for a year, a price premium that was worth it easily imo.
The moral of this story is: don't buy eBay gaming computers, it might cause arguments. Also, SSDs are fast but may or may not be worth the money depending on your expectations.
