hmmm... can't cay I ever created my own software house though. It is really that obvious though that "Tarquin" is in fact not CEO of any software company and it annoys the hell out of the reps. And anyway, the point is that it's not really that much of a problem putting on a shirt and tie is it??? I know spike's skat0r image will be spoilt but at least his mum will say "aawwwww, he's all grown up!!!"