1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

News Eich steps down from Mozilla over equal rights furore

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Gareth Halfacree, 4 Apr 2014.

  1. Yadda

    Yadda Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25 Jul 2003
    Posts:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    49
    "Now there's no way I'm comparing Eich to Hitler BUT ...<compares Eich to Hitler>."

    Go on Nexxo. PLEASE. :D
     
  2. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,264
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Well... Eich probably likes dogs. I mean, he looks like the kind of guy who likes dogs. Hitler liked dogs, so there. :p
     
  3. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

    Joined:
    23 Apr 2009
    Posts:
    13,393
    Likes Received:
    2,073
    Eich -> Reich -> Hitler...

    there.

    done.
     
  4. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,264
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    ^^^ QED, really. :D
     
  5. bawjaws

    bawjaws Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    5 Dec 2010
    Posts:
    3,963
    Likes Received:
    664
    More like Turd Eich -> Third Reich -> Hitler, amirite?
     
  6. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,264
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    :eeek: OMG! That can't be a coincidence, right? Right? :p



    But seriously. A poster stated somewhere earlier that he was nor very familiar with Proposition 8, as indeed most people this side of the pond quite reasonably won't be. Here's a little pointer.

    Eich's donation was not merely an expression of his political beliefs. It was a contribution to, frankly, a homophobic hate campaign. He might as well have picked up a sign and joined the Phelps family, which I think in many ways would have been a less harmful and more honest way of expressing his personal views.
     
  7. greg s

    greg s New Member

    Joined:
    29 Apr 2008
    Posts:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've never seen so many knees jerking at once. I guess Mozilla isn't as inclusive as they claim, if you have personal beliefs that aren't held by the majority. Proposition 8 was a referendum item voted on by the registered voters of California. That is, it was a basic expression of democracy in action whether you agree with it or not (which I don't). It was not 'imposing his beliefs on others'. The 'others' get to express their beliefs through the ballot box as well.
    Eich left because this nonsense was damaging a company which he obviously values highly and to which he has dedicated a good chunk of his professional life. Can you you say witch hunt? Good, I knew that you could.
     
  8. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,264
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Proposition 8 basically proposed to make same-sex marriage illegal (again). Had it been successful, people in same-sex relationships would nor have been able to marry. So yes, this was a case of people striving to make their personal beliefs law, thus imposing them on society at large. Whether other people can vote against this in a democratic process is moot. This is not people voting for an issue that affects them; it is not a vote on how they wish to live. It is a vote on how they wish others to live, whether those others want to or not. See the difference?

    People keep going on about how Eich is entitled to his beliefs. He is entitled to have them and express them as much as he wants. HE IS JUST NOT ENTITLED TO IMPOSE THEM ON OTHERS. And like it or not, that is what Proposition 8 aimed to do.
     
    Last edited: 6 Apr 2014
  9. Yadda

    Yadda Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25 Jul 2003
    Posts:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    49
    :hehe:

    Well I'm not saying he was like Jimmy Savile BUT.... <incongruence this> ... <incongruence that>. :)
     
  10. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,264
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    ...or was he?... :worried:
     
  11. Anfield

    Anfield Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    15 Jan 2010
    Posts:
    6,378
    Likes Received:
    744
    Considering the some what recent ruling of the Supreme Court details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Windsor it is questionable if the individual states should even be allowed to hold votes like that at all.
     
  12. DbD

    DbD Member

    Joined:
    13 Dec 2007
    Posts:
    509
    Likes Received:
    12
    I wonder what people would be saying here if the roles were reversed and the CEO was fired for speaking privately in favour of gay marriage? It is a mark of a free open society that people can have differing view points and not persecute each other. The debate about whether marriage is man/woman or can be man/man is a debate people are allowed to have. It is not killing gay people - marriage is as much a tax break as anything. You can give a life long commitment to another person without having the government write a piece of paper to say its so, which makes no difference to stopping them splitting up looking at divorce rates.
    Anyway by forcing him out of his job people are showing the kind of intolerance they are trying to castigate him for. Even many gay rights advocates can see that they are turning into the people they've just been fighting to overcome by going down this path. As for modzilla seems equality and openness only applies if you think the right things - which is not equality or openness at all. So "he is not entitled to impose his views on others", but you are entitled to impose your views on him? Even if bound up in how much you hate that view can you not see how you have become just as bad, worse in fact as the right to work is much more important then some government tax break.
     
    Last edited: 7 Apr 2014
  13. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

    Joined:
    30 Oct 2012
    Posts:
    9,648
    Likes Received:
    386
    Why do people have the idea that Eich kept his view on gay marriage private ? He didn't.
    The moment anyone gives their support to something the belief is no longer a privately held one.

    And why do people think Eich was forced out of the job ? He was not.
    Eich or the company he worked for made a choice that it would be in the best interest of the company.
     
  14. impar

    impar Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24 Nov 2006
    Posts:
    3,106
    Likes Received:
    41
    Greetings!
    Eich -> Reich -> III Reich -> Hitler...

    Eich compares to Hitler AND HL3 confirmed.
     
  15. will_123

    will_123 Small childs brain in a big body

    Joined:
    2 Feb 2011
    Posts:
    1,060
    Likes Received:
    15
    well maybe he did....or jumped before being pushed.
     
  16. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

    Joined:
    23 Oct 2001
    Posts:
    34,264
    Likes Received:
    1,693
    Oh, FFS. :read:

    This is not about him expressing his views. It is about him, by supporting Proposition 8, striving to impose his views on others.

    Are we clear on this imposition thing now?

    EDIT:

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: 18 Apr 2014

Share This Page