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Electronics Electronic Gurus, I Need your help. Macroman, Linear? ANYONE?

Discussion in 'Modding' started by DETN8R, 28 Oct 2002.

  1. DETN8R

    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    ok, so you want me to measure the voltages on pin 7, right? and when I hit the switch on pin 9, grounding it
     
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    linear Minimodder

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    right, but remember, there's two states, and you are toggleing between them by sending in a clock pulse. so the voltage with you holding the button doesn't really count.
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    ok, with me holding the button down, the voltage on pin7 is 62.8mV and without me pressing the button the voltage is flucuating around 2.2v - 3v

    and it goes back to doing that after every time i hit the button
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    the voltages change everytime I take them
     
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    linear Minimodder

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    hmmm, this doesn't sound at all right.

    What you should see is the voltage should be near zero (68 mV, that's a good example) until you press the button and release it. Then it should go toward 5V, give or take a few millivolts.

    Again, the state with the button held in doesn't really matter, it's the state after it makes a transition that I'm interested in. If it's not making the transistion, we need to back up, because you had it pretty much working with just an LED, or so I thought.
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    it was the same with the LED, it would either Get brighter when I pushed the button but as soon as I released it it would go back to being dim
     
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    ZapWizard Enter the Mod Matrix

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    I have a quesition?
    Why so much work for this switch?
    Have you looked for a push-on/push off version of the switch you are using?
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    its to late for me to look for a similar switch
     
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    linear Minimodder

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    yeah, I misread what you wrote in that post--your flipflop isn't working.
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    heres a pic of the voltage reading. it didnt stay at that it was just what it was at when i took the pic, its flucuation

    [​IMG]

    you can see the LED is dimly lit
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    I have another that I could test it with. Ill try
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    im getting the same results with this one
     
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    linear Minimodder

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    hey, maybe a straight-on overhead shot of your breadboard would be useful as well, so I can confirm your connections.
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    I'm going to have you replace the resistor to +5V from pin1 with a straight through wire connection. Then retest.
     
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    linear Minimodder

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    I guess I should also ask, is pin 16 connected to +5V? That's what it needs to be, and I can't tell what's in your various busses.
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    ok, I removed the resistor on pin 1 and connected it to the +5v and pin 16 is connected to +5v and Im still getting the same results
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    Whats CLR on that circuit?

    also, im not very familiar with that transistor symbol, where does the base, collector, and emitter go?
     
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    linear Minimodder

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    CLR is a clear input.

    If you mean the symbol in Mu's diagram, that's a FET, so it's gate, source and drain.

    See if you can get your flipflop to transition by eliminating the switch and pugging a wire from pin 9 (clk) first into ground, then into +5V. Just grab the wire and move it.
     
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    DETN8R What's a Dremel?

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    same results
     

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