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England Starts Fingerprinting Drinkers

Discussion in 'General' started by CyberSol, 23 Oct 2006.

  1. CyberSol

    CyberSol 1337 Pants

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    I searched, but couldn't find a thred on this so...

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    So for those of you in the UK; have you heard this? Is this old news? What do you think about this?
     
  2. Atomic

    Atomic Gerwaff

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    Never heard about it at all.

    I doubt it was widely used, if at all after the pilot.
     
  3. M4RTIN

    M4RTIN What's a Dremel?

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    i've certainly never seen it, those articles make it look like everywhere does it. i'd say birmingham is a major city but i havent seen anywhere doing it
     
  4. xen0morph

    xen0morph Bargain wine connoisseur

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    I've never experienced this.

    Mind you, I've not gone to the pub on a regular basis for months now. Most of the pubs and clubs where I live are rubbish, so apart from the occasional venture to Manchester, Leeds, or to a techno party somewhere, I stay in :p
     
  5. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    So whenever you go into a pub? You need to be fingerprinted before you can buy a pint? Does anyone else see an issue with this?
     
  6. atanum141

    atanum141 I fapped to your post!

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    In my many many years of drinking in my area not once have i seen a fight....
     
  7. monkeyville

    monkeyville Evilish Monkey ++;

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    I've been to a few clubs where they take my ID and scan it before letting me in.
     
  8. Krazeh

    Krazeh Minimodder

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    It's been on trial in Yeovil since feb iirc, basically whenever ya enter a club or pub you get your fingerprint scanned and it checks that you haven't been banned from anywhere else nearby. Not sure whether I like the idea or not tbh, has it's plus and it's minuses.
     
  9. Strategy

    Strategy Banned

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    Been to a few clubs up in Nottingham where they have a device that scans your hand(s) to see if you've touched any drugs etc.. If it shows up anything as Class A (Coke, Heroin, XTC etc..) then you get taken into a meat wagon and strip searched.

    "Bend over please, this won't hurt a bit!"
     
  10. monkeyville

    monkeyville Evilish Monkey ++;

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    Awesome. Which ones have that?
     
  11. speedfreek

    speedfreek What's a Dremel?

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    It would be a good idea to keep the jerks out but you still see them when you go to Dennys to sober up later. When someone starts a fight it kinda kills the mood.
     
  12. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    Yeah, I have a problem with this. Basically, it treats everyone as a potential criminal. I would say that people should be up in arms about this and boycotting any pub that has implemented these systems, but unfortunalty it doesn's seem to be happening.
     
  13. specofdust

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    Exactly, this places the burden of proof of innocence on the individual. I hate stuff like this.

    Strangely, I'm quite sure that I wouldn't mind nearly as much if it was a chain or corporation doing it. At least then people have a choice, and you know corps are regulated by laws, and are more professional in the way they handle data then the government. The government I especially don't trust with stuff like this.

    It can only be a matter of a decade or so before the government has these finger prints going onto a central database, tied with other stuff.

    It saddens me that people are accepting this without even realising that there might be an issue.
     
  14. Bogomip

    Bogomip ... Yo Momma

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    Never been in a fight at a pub - never involved in drink related abuse of any kind. If I got asked to be fingerprinted at a bar I would be personally offended at being thrown in with a bunch of yobs.

    While I see its merits I would just vote for another party at the next election, or not at all - when people start treating me like a criminal for going to the pub then that person loses my respect.

    edit: of course this could never actually happen - a large proportion of the population will drink at a pub at some point during the year and the riot would be huge. Students, bums, normal people, criminals, the elderly - all united under the common goal of storming downing street. It would be anarchy, it would be decisive, and it would be swift.
     
  15. Will

    Will Beware the judderman...

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    The police here had a similar device to check for drugs, that relies on a swab taken from the palm of your hand.

    Of course, its not anything like 100% accurate :rolleyes: and the time I was asked to take the test, I failed, apparently for traces of heroin :worried:! Thankfully I wasn't arrested, though I was threatened with it, and upon retaking and passing the test, because (shock! horror!) I am not a heroin addict, I was allowed into the place I was going...without so much as an apology from the police.
     
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    So if you brush by someone in the street, touch something someone else has, like a door handle, then you're ****ed?

    Too many things now are changing around to be burden of innocence rather than absolute proof: like some on the spot fines or speeding tickets.
     
  17. mushky

    mushky gimme snails

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    No one holds coke in the palm of their hand. lol
     
  18. specofdust

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    No but everyone holds cash in their hand mushky, and forensics people can find traces of coke on something like 99.9% of all bank notes. If you get unlucky then you could have a £20 note in your hand that someone used for snorting a few lines the day before. Tests for drugs like the one Will mentioned are ridiculous. Sometimes I think the police come up with these things without actually realising how much it perverts the rule of law and peoples rights.
     
  19. mushky

    mushky gimme snails

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    This is pretty much what I was trying to imply. You won't catch drug users this way.
     
  20. MystChic

    MystChic Geology Rocks!

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    Yeah we have that here too.

    The US scanning fingerprints at customs I can understand... (more to the point, I just wasn't in a position to argue) but.. at pubs/bars/clubs?? I think that's going a little far. It's not right.
     

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