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News European PS3 has less functionality than US, Japan

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by WilHarris, 23 Feb 2007.

  1. ou7blaze

    ou7blaze sensational.

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    I had a PS2 in Hong Kong and quite like it despite some stuff was in Japanese which annoyed me because they obviously couldn't build a Hong Kong version with English embedded at least.

    We could only chose between the US and Japanese model, whatever.

    I never really thought about getting a new console such as the 360, Wii, PS3, why? - Because I don't need one, infact I sold my PS2.

    I've tried all of the consoles and I have to say the Xbox actually is improving dramatically in many ways, and Sony's PS3 is going downhill.

    The PS3 is ********, especially in Europe now that they have decided to do this. It's taking money out of Europeans pockets.


    Lastly you have to remember that we are probably a small community of people comapred to the general population of Playstation owners. We are also probably more knowledgable and educated on hardware specifics like this change on the PS3.

    Most of the general populatoin probably couldn't care less and that's who Sony is targetting, the fan boys, the kids that get mommy or daddy to buy the PS3 and just generally rich idiots.
     
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  2. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    it is to darn expensive and it is to late after Christmas.... no one has cash to splash on a PS3.
     
  3. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    holy ****, they've taken the sixaxis out too.

    it's just a plain dual shock now.

    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/02/23/euro_ps3/

    EDIT: the press release they mention doesn't talk about the sixaxis being cut. in fact they say it's included. i just read it so, i have to ask, wtf? why did tomshardware put that in :S
     
  4. ou7blaze

    ou7blaze sensational.

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    Maybe because Tom's Hardware loves Intel and PS3...some "pocket change" from the companies perhaps.
     
  5. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    uh, i don't think you read that right. tomshardware said the motion sensitivity would be lacking - why would that be indicative of some sort of sony favour?
     
  6. Swafeman

    Swafeman Minimodder

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    Means more like they dont like Sony I think, and hes implying MS paid them to say it :lol:
     
  7. ikra

    ikra What's a Dremel?

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    jeebus... i think they want us to think "hardware modifications" that they will have for ps3 would equals better in peoples mind and thus selling good.. too bad, not all of us are dumbasses
     
  8. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    I'm not reading through five pages of comments, but I'm sure I'll be repeating everyone else in saying that this is absolutely appalling. Honestly, what else could they do to try ensuring their demise? Maybe up the price by another hundred quid or so, but I don't know what is going on in their heads when they saw that the existing launches have already been, by most people's standards, a massive flop, so increasing the price and decreasing the functionality (after a six-month delay, no less) is somehow a good idea?

    Wow.
     
  9. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    According to an interview by 1up with Sony US

    So it sounds like they are hiding something from us. I personally reckon it didn't pass an FCC style test.
     
  10. Bogomip

    Bogomip ... Yo Momma

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    Sony really arent seeming to understand the competition the wii poses are they ? ;) I dont have a PS2 but can name several games id like for it and none for the ps3 - might have conisdered a ps3 up to now as you never know what will be released in the future but might as well just save a few hundred ££ and get a 2nd hand ps2 and a wii :)
     
  11. metarinka

    metarinka What's a Dremel?

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    bad move seeing how other regions have full backwards compatability, but last time I checked xbox 360 still didn't have full backwards compatability so I don't think it's as big of a disaster feature was as people make it out to be (there still is backwards compatability so i imagine A title games will get treated to compatability). The travesty is more in that european owners have to pay so much more for a lil less, which leads me to wonder how much does it cost to import US PS3's? aren't they region free?
     
  12. mclean007

    mclean007 Officious Bystander

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    Surely they can't dump the six axis - I'd imagine it is fundamental to the control systems in some PS3 games??

    Also, it can't be plain dual shock, because dual shock has force feedback, and I heard that Sony had had licensing problems and had had to remove FF capability from PS3? Maybe I imagined that.
     
  13. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Sixaxis isn't dumped, FF is not back in.

    No idea where Toms got their information from, but the terms "someone" and "arse" come to mind.
     
  14. inflatable

    inflatable What's a Dremel?

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    Bad news about the PS3, and another failed promise by Sony, what else is new? But you know what, this won't hurt PS3 sales in Europe to much.. Only the high price in the beginning will do that.. Anything other then that won't affect PS3 sales much because the average PS gamer is to ignorant about all these things.. And gamers that grew up on PS and/or PS2 will also most likely still buy a PS3 when they can afford it.. And Sony knows it, that's why they pulls these stunts..

    Personally I don't care about all this, because I wasn't gonna buy a PS3 anyway.. I have a high-end PC and Xbox 360 already which will do fine for my gaming needs the coming years..
     
  15. riggs

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    Well, iSuppli estimate that the "Emotion Engine/GFX Synth" chip ( :rolleyes: ) costs around $27 to manufacture...
    Is that really enough of a saving to warrant removing the chip? I mean, they're still gonna make a whopping loss on each system - is a $27 saving worth it?
     
  16. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    $27 is actually almost 5% of the total console cost to consumer. I'd say that's a fairly hefty whack. And if you think that they want to sell 1 million consoles thats $27million saved.
     
  17. mclean007

    mclean007 Officious Bystander

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    Maybe, but at the price they intend to pitch it to European consumers, the loss they will make on each console must be, even without the removal of some hardware, much less than the loss on every Japanese / US console. If it is a sound economic proposal for Sony to sell a full featured PS3 to an American for $599 (=~£305), why do they have to cripple the console by removing a $27 component to make the same sums add up at £425 in the UK and €599 (=£401) in the Euro-zone?
     
  18. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    Because then they can release a revision in a year or two's time, with the missing parts included and sell it again!
     
  19. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Also, remember the $599 is before tax. After UK VAT it comes to £352.
     
  20. mclean007

    mclean007 Officious Bystander

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    Of course. Sodding VAT. Still, £352 is still £73 less that Sony is demanding, so they're still selling a cut down produce for an inflated price.

    kenco_uk - why would they want to sell it to the same people again? If they are making a loss on every unit, they only want to ship units so they can get people buying games. If Jimmy buys a PS3 now then shelves it to buy a 'new' model a year down the line, Sony subsidises two consoles but only gets revenue from one customer's game purchases.
     
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