Guess what!!! I got a free copy of the RS manual from my dept. (elec eng) as they got the new ones...and I was browing through the switches and found some nice 16mm vandal switches...and also some tiny momentary switches. I know there are smaller ones, but I got big fingers, and I don't want everything to be tooooo small. The Final Design: Parts List: ------------ www.rswww.com 4x 278-1149 - vandal switches 16mm 9x 336-747 - momentary switches 6.5mm ; 4mm switch cap www.maplin.co.uk 4x blue 5mm 300mcd ultrabright LED's - JA25C 1x red 5mm 90mcd unltra bright LED - UK19V 5x Chrome LED holder (holds 5mm LED's) - FM38R Total Damage so far: Custom 'lcd / keypad interfacing PCB' : £25 LED's : £12 Switches: £40 ....and later on the jumper pins and header plugs, to interface the Keypad to LCD.... and, um the LCD I will be getting later on, a LK204-25 with the inverse blue..... Mike