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Other first boot - display goes in to standby when booting windows (SOLVED)

Discussion in 'Tech Support' started by adam_bagpuss, 5 Dec 2022.

  1. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    Hi all,

    got an odd problem after i recently upgraded.

    On my first/cold boot my display goes into standby and says no input detected. If i force a power off and back on it then boots no problems and works perfectly fine. No crashes ever during games or handbrake.

    current setup

    AMD 5800x3d (temps are 30-85c)
    Gigabyte B550m DS3H mobo with latest bios F16 (also tried previous revision F15)
    2x 8GB patriot DDR4 3200mhz 14-14-14-38 @1.35V with XMP on.
    Nmve Pci 4 - WD SN850x 2TB
    8GB 6600XT
    3x large storage WD drives connected to SATA
    1x USB to SATA connector for BLU-RAY drvie
    1x USB corsair HS70 pro wireless headset
    Windows 10 pro 64-bit


    so step by step;

    1. power on and bios logo appears and loading circle for windows
    2. mouse lights go off for 2-3 seconds then back on.
    3. display says no DP input detected goes into standby
    4. PC remains on but nothing else happens
    5. force off and on and immediately boots in to logon screen ready

    things ive tried

    updating bios and optimised defaults in bios
    turned off fast boot and CSM in bios
    turned off fast boot in windows
    latest windows 10 updates
    lastest drivers for everything
    my upgrade was a fresh install of windows 10 pro 64-bit


    anyone any ideas? cant seem to get it to boot first time at all.

    thanks,

    Adam
     
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  2. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    I'm probably blind, I can't see a graphics card listed? Might be worth adding your graphics card to see if it's driver or card related.
     
  3. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    Try turning off XMP, to see if it's a RAM timing thing.
     
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  4. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    As above, what's your graphics card and what connection are you using?
     
  5. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    added in and XMP makes no diff :( even default JDEC speeds make no diff
     
  6. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    Have you tried a different DP on your 6600XT? I used to have a similar thing with an RX480.
     
  7. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    oo jesus maybe i was over thinking it ! ill give it a go !
     
  8. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    I had that once, I can't remember if just turning the monitor off/on and/or unplugging/plugging the cable back in did it. Was very simple iirc as I was all set for a frantic problem solving sesh.

    Never seemed to do it again after that.
     
  9. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    switching DP was a no go - same problem
     
  10. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    What happens if you don't switch the monitor on until after you've turned the pc on, that is a few seconds after - say when you'd hit the log on screen?

    Same thing?
     
  11. play_boy_2000

    play_boy_2000 ^It was funny when I was 12

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    My second monitor goes blank at the login screen, which sound exactly like what you're describing. Try typing in your password anyways (enter>password>enter) and see if you see your desktop, sans icons or start menu.
    Not sure how a phantom monitor would appear, but it's at least something to try on the troubleshooting tree.
     
  12. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    leaving monitor off during boot did nothing :(

    tried typing pin but nothing either

    really got me stumped this
     
  13. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    Sounds like a cold boot issue rather than Windows or driver issue. (typing pin doesn't do anything)

    Is there any motherboard controlled fan? do they spin at max power until you hard reset? What about the GPU fan?
    Is there any visual diagnostic from the motherboard on which bit it might be stuck on?

    Can you try another PSU?
     
  14. David

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    I still think it could be a memory issue of some kind.

    Do you have any spare memory to test?
    Are the modules installed in the correct slots i.e. slots 2 & 4 (or A2 & B2)?
    Have you tried a single stick?
     
  15. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    i dont and yes they are A2 B2

    havent tried a single stick but worth a go.

    I should note my previous board had no issues and its the same RAM (Asus ROG Strix B350-F)
     
  16. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    yeah i have a AIO corsair hydro fans spin normally i would say until i turn the power off. Mobo doesnt have any indicators im afraid. Ill check to see if the GPU fan is running when i first boot.
     
  17. Spanky

    Spanky Minimodder

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    Ive had a similar issue recently with AM4. Booting with a single stick of RAM cured , then restarting with both sticks was ok.
     
  18. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    Messed a bit with the RAM yesterday.

    1. tried a single stick - no dice
    2. tried switching the channels A1, B1 - no dice

    scouring online might be a driver issue but im not convinced. It suggested a roll back from 20.11.x to around 20.5 which is a big leap back. Ill give it ago as it cant hurt but nothing has effected it so far.
     
  19. noizdaemon666

    noizdaemon666 I'm Od, Therefore I Pwn

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    Could you try your monitor with HDMI rather than DP?
     
  20. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    HMDI does the same :( im just waiting to try the other HDMI slot but i doubt that will do anything

    Same thing. No luck

    I have also tried booting safe mode and checking to see if onboard display drivers is present and it isnt.
     
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