what trading software do you use ?? also i would get - intel i5 2500k - msi p67A-GD53 - 4gb corsair DDR3 xms3 - two nvidia gt 520 silent 1gb graphics cards - fractal r3 white - coolermaster 500w psu -64gb crucial SSD M4 total price £590 If your only ever using the computer for trading then get a 120gb SSD and be done with it. if not get a cheap £30 1TB hardrive.
also would get 24" monitors that are 1920x1200 - more space cant hurt or go all out and get the 27" iiyama monitor. perfect for practical use
Hey Donok, Thanks for your suggestions, so do you think that system would be better than the one murryant suggested? There are just so many different component available how does anyone ever decide?! Doesn't help that I know nothing about computers and I am very indecisive! Oh and I'm just using MetaTrader 4 for my trading. Thanks, Sam.
I'll have to see about 24" monitors. I'm really limited for space as I'm still living with parents and don't have that much space in my room. I did want those Benq Eco ones but as roosauce pointed out, they don't have the 'displayport' that I need for the eyefinity thingy!!!! I really want an all white setup - case, monitors, keyboard and mouse etc... So does anyone know of any other good white monitors? Sam.
LN33021 530W Be Quiet BN106 Pure Power L7, 80 PLUS, SLI/CrossFire, 120mm Fan, Dual Rail, ATX12V v2.3 £41.99 LN35332 Fractal Design Define R3, Arctic White, Mid Tower Case w/o PSU £86.15 LN36298 x2 2GB Corsair DDR3 XMS3, PC3-10666 (1333), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.50V £33.91 LN37506 Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad Core, 3.3GHz, GPU 850Mhz, 6MB Cache, 95W OEM £156.18 LN37901 Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3-B3, Intel P67 Express, S 1155, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1333, SATA 6Gb/s RAID, ATX £100.40 LN38325 x2 512Mb MSI N210-MD512D3H/LP, Low Profile design with brackets, 520MHz Core, 512MB DDR3 1200MHz Memory £50.90 LN39102 64GB Crucial RealSSD M4, 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s SSD, MLC-Flash, Read 415MB/s, Write 95MB/s £89.57 Total £575 Is what I would go with 2 x Geforce 210 is better than 1 x Radeon because these are passive cards, so will be utterly silent when in use.
okay there are 2 main processors brands. either intel or amd. pretty fair to say intel have been on the ball recently compared to amd but amd are generally better bank for buck. processors have pins on them which fit in certain motherboards. for example intel sandybridge is socket 1155 which is the number of pins it has. so therefore can only be used with a compatable motherboard. then theres chipset on the motherboard and relates to the features is has so for socket 1155 sandybridge the main popular chipsets are H67,P67 and Z68. all three will work with any 1155 cpu but all have different features. the main one people reccomend on here is the P67 as it is a great performer but also has sata3 and usb3. next is memory which is used as short term storage for a computer. these come in different models relative to speed at which they run. all sandybridge setups use DDR3 dual channel memory. they come in 1333mhz, 1600mhz and 2000mhz speeds. the difference is nominal and you require 2 sticks minimum to gain the full potential. either 2 sticks of 2gb that = 4GB total or 2 sticks of 4gb = 8gb total. most general use like your needs descibe will require no more then 4gb and there is always 4 slots for memory on p67 so if you need to you can get another 2 and have a total of 8gb in the future. next is graphics cards or gpu. they come in 2 main brands also either nvidia or amd (use to be ati) the better the gpu the better the frames per second (FPS) you see on screen up to a max of 60 as thats the average refresh rate of the screen. more FPS the more smooth the video you play looks. however you require 3 monitors so you can either you one amd gpu which is fan cooled or 2 nvidia gpu's that are passively cooled. passive cooling is better as its less noisey but means you cant get the best gpu as they run rather hot. for general tasks like you describe i think the best option is 2 nvidia passively cooled cards to keep the pc silent and you concentration on the markets. you have to get 2 to run all 3 screens. sli means joining two nvidia cards together to run faster but its not needed in this circumstance. next you have the power supply which converts home electricity to use for the computer parts. the higher the wattage on the cpu the more parts you can run without the computer failing. its like petrol in a plane or wind for a sail boat. (i know its late lol) as your not running power hungry high end components found in a gaming machine you can use a 500w powersupply. the case is your choice but they do come in different sizes and so do motherboards. p67 motherboards are the standard ATX size so a fractal r3 which is a midi size case will be perfect. also the fractal has many sound dampening qualities which can really reduce all sound coming from the machine. making your life better ? solid state drives (SSD) are like flash memory in your ipod they use chips to store data rather then spinning disks. they are less power hungry, extremely fast and dont break if you drop them. they are however more expensive then normal HDDs and are limited in size. a 64gb model will be fine for windows and some software but you might run out. most people use ssds for windows and games or most used software then put everything else onto a normal harddrive to maximise the use of the ssd but keep costs down also. i think to start you off a single 64gb would be fine then you could add a £20 hdd to store music etc on if needed. or you could just buy a 120gb ssd wihch is around £160 so will put you £70 over budget of £600 however it means you dont have to worry about having 2 hdds as all your stuff will be on the one single larger ssd which will be very fast. the computer will be ready to use within 30-40seconds from switching it on. - intel i5 2500k - msi p67A-GD53 - 4gb corsair DDR3 xms3 - two nvidia gt 520 silent 1gb graphics cards - fractal r3 white - coolermaster 500w psu -64gb crucial SSD M4 total price £590
I still say our EZ Mode UEFI is the best possible choice for this gentleman If he's not gaming - it's questionable whether he should divert the money into a Z68 board instead. SSD caching could mean a cheaper alternative to a full SSD - although more difficult to setup - and the integrated graphics in a K series should be fast enough until he really wants to game.
Not to confuse more, but if you are not overclocking do you really need the i5 2500K? wouldn't a i5 2500 suffice? or maybe even a i5 2400? and you could save some money...
Wow thanks for all the great replies everyone!!! I never thought selecting component for a PC would be so difficult! There is just too much choice and everyone has a different opinion. For someone as indecisive as me it is a nightmare! I guess I just have to pick something and go with it! So far I am thinking, definitely the Intel Core i5 2500 (Do I need the "K" version or not? I like the look of the Asus P8P67 Motherboards, but which one? I don't know the difference between these - http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb...s=computers&field-keywords=asus+p8p67&x=0&y=0 Everyone seems in agreement on the BeQuiet for cooling so I'll stick with that. Also the Crucial Real SSD hard disk seems everyone's choice so one of them too! Case is a toss up between these 2: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/249093?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products http://www.ebuyer.com/product/240617?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products But fractal R3 seems to be favored, nobody like the other one? Memory, will stick with Corsair like has been suggested, but which is best? http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/item-detail.php?products_id=4373625 Or http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/370...dR4S7SLwVMQ08Yk0tJUJ0PraMeoh0UGADXnxOEiENDg== Power supply, can't decide. Shouldn't think its that important is it? Maybe the Antec TruePower New TP-650? Then graphics card..... Hmm.... Tricky one. What does everyone think of this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003ZWMN...de=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B003ZWMNCI and this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...m1402X558040X6d6bb8058ed32ec93973b0cbbf5fc053 and this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...m1402X558040Xa2a5e51959153967a1708ceccc722170 That one looks amazing. The first card however allows Eyefinity without displayport connectors. So I could use the monitors I like. One connected by HDMI, the other 2 would need a HDMI to DVI adaptor I think. Guys if you could help me decide between the options above then I'm good to go so your opinions would be very much appreciated!!!! Cheers, Sam.
The K version only has something like a 5 pound premium now so what ever that is in dollars. It would be silly not to go for it really especially as they are fool proof to overclock. I would pick the R3 personally as it will be quite and I think it looks slicker. Also look at the fractal Arc, although it will be slightly louder. I would personally stick to the Xms3 ram as I have never had problems with it and the heatsinks are smaller. Also look at the G.Skill eco ram. It runs at only 1.35 volts. For a PSU I would avoid the Tp-+650 now. It was a great PSU in it's day but it now out placed by other PSUs that are more efficient and cheaper. Look at corsair HX650 instead. Or if you want something cheaper BeQuite do excellent PSUs I'm not sure on the GFX but another one to consider if you want a bit more grunt is the 5850 and the 5830 since they are going for 77 pounds now. Bahh I just gave you more decisions.
The 2500K version means you can overclock which gives a large amount of extra performance for a small amount of cash. This is especially helpful in a few years time when you want a faster computer. Overclocking is very easy, and I'm sure many people on the forums can tell give you a heads up on what you need to do. The -M its an mATX so it only has 4PCI slots not 7. The Pro basically gives better overclocks. The only other difference is the I/O like number of USB ports etc. The standard Asus P8P67 would be best suited to your needs, or a MSI P67A-GD53 for that matter. I would get a Agility 3 or Vertex 3 over a M4 in the SSD department. Definately get the R3. The Vengance RAM often has trouble with the BeQuiet CPU coolers and its only advantage is it "looks cooler" with those big black heatsinks so I reccomend the XMS3. Depending where you buy your components from (scan.co.uk is the best), I would just get the cheapest 90+ Silver/Gold 600W PSU. Something like a HX650 would be good. As for graphics cards, this would be the cheapest option. It is also silent because of its passive design. Also, I would use the DVI port for the primary monitor, one HDMI to DVI adaptor for the 2nd, and one VGA to DVI adapter for the third. The card should come with atleast the vga to dvi adaptor and maybe one for HDMI>DVI. You could use the HDMI port as it is, but the monitor wont come with a HDMI cable. This means you'd have buy a HDMI cables that is generally more expensive than HDMI to DVI adapters(if the graphics card doesn't come with one already).
Guys you are supposed to help me narrow things down not give me more options! Lol. You both suggest the HX650 PSU over the Antec TruePower 650 but Sponge12349 you say to go for a 90+ silver gold rated PSU. I know nothing about this but the spec for the Corsair says "80 PLUS Bronze". Would you still go for it? I can't really find any 90+ Silver/Gold ones for a decent price. This isn't 90+ but has good reviews: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190751 Any good? Will go with the XMS3 memory then. Thanks. Sponge that graphics card you linked looks very basic, remember I want to run 3 monitors... Would that be suitable? The ones I linked seem to be designed to run more monitors. The flex one can run 4 monitors which could be an idea if I want to add another monitor some day. Also, why do you suggest Agility 3 and Vertex 3 over the Crucial SSD. Everyone seemed to be in agreement that the Crucial one was a good buy. Just personal preference? Anyway, here is what I think I have decided on so far: - Fractal R3 White - Asus P8P67 Motherboard - Intel Core i5 - 2500K Processor - Corsair XMS3 Memory - BeQuiet Dark Rock Advanced Cooling Can someone confirm everything here is compatible so far? Still need to decide on PSU, Graphics card and SSD. Need to make my final choices soon before all the parts become outdated! Lol. Sam.
Actually I think I'm going to go for that graphics card and the Crucial SSD so I just need to decide on PSU. This shouldn't be the most difficult thing to decide on surely!
Maybe: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147112 Or: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/247724 I'm thinking the BeQuiet one togo with my BeQuiet cooler thingy. Guess it would help if I knew something about this!!!!
530W Bequiet is the one you want, aswell as the GD53 as murraynt said. As it looks like you want to buy everything from ebuyer, which by the way is normally more expensive, and you said you may want to run 4monitors in future, I would get this. It's fanless so will be silent inside that R3.
Ok looks like the MSI is better than the Asus and I'll go for the BeQuiet PSU then. So now it's just graphics card. Sponge, I like the idea of a passive card with no fan but I don't think that card supports 3 monitors. The review says it doesn't support eyefinity anyway.......
Graphics card is still proving a bit of a problem. The main thing is that I want 3 screens and the the screens I want don't have displayport. So the only solution I can find is that flex card that allows 3 non displayport screens. However, I'd prefer a passively cooled alternative like the one sponge suggested but that doesn't support 3 screens I think. Looks like I'm going to have to go with the fan cooled one. Another thing, on Scan. The Intel Core i5 2500k has 2 listings. One 'retail' and one 'OEM'. The OEM one is cheaper. What is the difference? Sam.
