Build Advice First Ever Build, i7 920

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  1. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    From W7 release candidate, it should not be problem to upgrade to the full release, however I'm only 80% sure of that.
     
  2. Guest-16

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    Cant remember exactly but I prefer the Kama.

    Why bother such a small upgrade too?
     
  3. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    I don't like the Kama push-pin mounts, installation is so difficult, as my hands are too large, read non-Japanese. I'm going to lap the CPU and sort out the cabling, and the thought of trying to push those pins down, makes me sweat. On the CPC test, IIRC the Titan outperformed the Kama by quite a margin.
     
  4. Jewels

    Jewels What's a Dremel?

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    Is it actually possible to install Windows 7 RC onto a new system without any prior OS installed?
     
  5. oasked

    oasked Stuck in (better) mud

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    Yes, as long as you burn the disc.
     
  6. Jewels

    Jewels What's a Dremel?

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    I've updated the first post to reflect the changes, although after a little more reading I'm concerned about the BIOS version I'll be receiving with the motherboard. I don't ever plan on SLI, but how can I ensure I have the latest BIOS? Some reviewers on Ebuyer have mentioned problems with their SpinPoint drives not being properly recognised on Gigabyte boards, unless an updated BIOS is used. I'm wondering whether I should opt for the MSI X58 Pro instead.

    And one last question: should I bother buying Arctic Silver 5 and ArctiClean 1&2?
     
  7. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    *Artic Silver - Yes
    *Arctclean - Yes, or buy some isopropyl alcohol, whatever is cheaper or more convenient.
    * The Gigabyte X58 UD3R can be BIOS flashed to include SLI support.
    * I installed a 750GB spinpoint on a P45 Gigabyte board with no problems.
    * You can download the latest BIOS from the Gigabyte website.
     
  8. Guest-16

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    Yes boot from disk.

    I just installed this exact thing onto a i7 940, MSI X58 Pro this afternoon from fresh.
     
  9. Guest-16

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    Ahh I was looking at another build the other day and it had bolts!? I should pay more attention.
     
  10. Jewels

    Jewels What's a Dremel?

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    It's strange as Scan lists the motherboard as "Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD3R, SLi, Intel X58 Express", yet scrolling down to the specifications yields a contradiction.

    What would you personally recommend: the X58-UD3R or MSI X58 Pro?

    And I thought the RC wasn't released until April 30th/May 5th?
     
  11. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    The Kama Angle had bolts?
     
  12. Turbotab

    Turbotab I don't touch type, I tard type

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    There have been various RC versions already. All a release candidate is a more finalised version of the Beta. I, too have installed RC on a brand new hard drive.
     
  13. smc8788

    smc8788 Multimodder

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    The official RC is build 7100. You can obtain the 32-bit and 64-bit versions from 'certain' sites if you so wish. The keys that are available from the Microsoft website still work, you just need a Windows Live account.

    As for the motherboard, I'd personally prefer the EX58-UD3R, because it overclocks better and doesn't look like poo.
     
  14. Chris_Waddle

    Chris_Waddle Loving my new digital pinball machine

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    Well I recently bought a DO stepping i920 and the Gigabyte X58-Extreme.

    Both are fantastic. I can overclock the CPU to 3885ghz (185x21) with hardly any increase the the cpu & QPI voltages. When I do push it, I can get it up to 4495ghz (214x21). This is also with HT enabled.

    You will see many people showing big overclocks on these cpus, a lot disable the HT to keep the temps down. The DO stepping requires a lot less voltage to hit the same overclocks, hence keeping the temps down.
     
  15. Jewels

    Jewels What's a Dremel?

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    That's precisely the reason why I'm choosing D0 over C0 despite only going for a mild overclock.
    Surely in terms of performance, disabling HT just to achieve a higher overlock would be inferior to a lower overlock with HT enabled?
     
  16. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    that depends on the app, if they dont use extra threads it will make no difference.

    however running lots of apps assigned to different threads would be better with HT on rather than off.
     
  17. trig

    trig god's little mistake

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    not entirely correct. they improve the process in as many areas as they can, mostly for voltage and temps it seems on this particular stepping. intel doesn't just spend the money to improve a cpu so we can overclock better...no, it's usually down to issue improvements. and the voltage usage and thermal improvements are a benefit whether you oc or not. i'd get the d0 stepping if there isn't too much of a premium.
     
  18. Guest-16

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    It was definitely the Angle - I'll ask whose PC it was.

    Pro/UD3R - same to me tbh. Whatever has the features you prefer. I just needed all 6 ram slots. UD3R is now slightly cheaper and just flash it with the SLI BIOS for SLI - that's all.
     
  19. Jewels

    Jewels What's a Dremel?

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    Thanks for all the help; I've now ordered the components.

    Just my luck though, the i7 920 D0 is now £242.85. That's £6.90 lost from ordering a day early :duh:
     

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