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Networks Flat Cat 6 Vs Thick Cat 5 Cable? Which One?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Gerry_Wan, 19 Feb 2014.

  1. Gerry_Wan

    Gerry_Wan What's a Dremel?

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    Hi guys
    Im looking at wiring my house and getting rid of our wifi signals. We have a newborn due soon, and the missus is worried about wi fi radiation, especially since we got the 5ghz BT hub4.

    I have been looking at flat Cat cables and i found this flat cable which is a CAT 6.
    http://www.tradexguru.com/networking/wired/cat-6-network-lan-cable/cat-6-super-flat-lan-high-speed-internet-network-super-flat-data-cable-transmission-rj45.html
    Because its flat (i want to place it under carpets and floorboards)
    Do you think there will be any more data loss than a normal 'thick' style cat 5 or cat 6?
    Im always a bit sceptical on flat cables, although I have never tried or tested them.
    Has anyone else got experience in using them?
    The flat shape worries me slightly with inteference and sheilding, but because it is CAT 6 it should be faster?
     
  2. saspro

    saspro IT monkey

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    Based on the way Cat 5 & 6 cables work I'm not a big fan of flat cables.
    There's no way they can get the twists in a flat cable
     
  3. Sp!

    Sp! Minimodder

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    I'm not sure about flat cable, if they meet the standards then you shouldn't have a problem. But if I were you I'd get normal cat 5e /6 if you run it tight up against the carpet gripper (on the side closest to the wall you can't see it and you can't (easily) stand on/crush it.

    Also I wouldn't worry about the wi fi radiation, if you live in a built up area and if you ever look at a 2.4Ghz spectrum analyzer you'll see so much noise from everything /everyone else WiFi that unless you baby is sleeping on top of your homehub there's really very little difference from having it on or not. 5Ghz doesn't penetrate as well as 2.4Ghz so again unless your really close to the source I can't see any reason to worry as the signal is pretty weak by the time its passed thru a brick wall or two. (also there's absolutely no evidence that any of this is harmful in anyway but I know if you have a newborn (especially if its your first) people get super caucus about everything)
     
  4. play_boy_2000

    play_boy_2000 ^It was funny when I was 12

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    I fail to see what politics has to do with new parents?

    Anyways though, unless you explicitly need flat cable, go with the regular rounded stuff (be it Cat6 or Cat5e).
     
  5. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    Stop right there.
    There is literally no evidence for "WiFi radiation" causing harm to anybody. WiFi is 100,000 times less dangerous than a microwave oven. Reassure her that there is literally zero risk, and that she needs to stop reading tabloids.

    http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2012/sep/27/wi-fi-health-risks
    http://web.princeton.edu/sites/ehs/radiation/nirad.htm
     
  6. dancingbear84

    dancingbear84 error 404

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    Mod the cot, place it inside a Faraday cage.

    Or alternatively just run normal cat5 tacked to the skirting board or coving depending on the run, it is fairly well hidden, especially when painted, it works and there is almost zero chance of damage.

    I'm all for being paranoid, as a parent myself, I've been through the same arguments. But will you also get rid of cordless phones, wireless baby monitors, mobile phones etc.

    Do it, keep your partner happy, that is the biggest thing to worry about when attempting to deal with a very pregnant lady. Just do as they say, it is easier than the ball of hormones that she is feeling.

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  7. Sp!

    Sp! Minimodder

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    cautious ... sorry for my terrible spelling ;)

    Politics aside

    Your missis is asking you to run cables for a hard wired network... this is a good thing!! wired networks are so much faster and more reliable than wireless in every situation.
     
  8. Atomic

    Atomic Gerwaff

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    If there were any issues with health risks related to wifi hospitals would be the first place to stop using them, they are doing the opposite and rolling out even more wifi.
     
  9. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    Indeed. The neonatal unit I was on last week had a Cisco WiFi router in each nursery (a nursery being the rooms in to which incubators with the babies in go). If WiFi wasn't safe, they wouldn't be in there.
     
  10. Igniseus

    Igniseus What's a Dremel?

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    Aye, can you imagine the outrage if it turned out wi-fi was causing damage to millions of babies across hospitals.

    As mentioned above, what about other radiation from TV broadcast, radio, mobile phones, baby monitors, wireless phones etc. We're lucky they are harmless otherwise we'd all be looking like this by now:

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Markwinstanley

    Markwinstanley What's a Dremel?

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    Most of Cat6 Cabling Services companies/providers use normal cat6 cable in wall installation. Flat cable will run without any data loss if there is no weight on cable, any bent and stretch. Don't use cheap quality cable as there will be strain on cable while walking on carpets.
     
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  12. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    As noted in the linked guardian article, WiFi signals are far too weak to present any health risk and, as far as I know, no-one walks around all day with a router clamped to their head.
     
  13. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    2.4GHz or 5GHz radiation power received if you placed your head directly next to the hub's antenna (assuming a complaint hub emitting 100mW EIRP, using an omnidirectional antenna) would be max 50mW (because at most you'd cover half the output region, even if you tried to stuff it up your nose).

    Broadband radiation received from the Sun: peaks at midday around 1kWm^-2. Face/neck average surface area is 1320cm^2, or 0.132m^2. Solar energy absorbed for your head (assuming perfect blocking by hair) = 132,000mW

    If you're worried about energy absorbed from WiFi, you should be petrified about going outside during the day.
     
  14. mrbungle

    mrbungle Undercooked chicken giver

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    You going to get rid of nextdoors Wifi too?
     
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