Flat Earthers

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  1. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Dawkins is a scientist, but he is not a psychologist. It shows. He falls into the same reasoning traps as the more fundamentalist religious people tend to do.
     
  2. walle

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    Having a PHD behind their names does not by default action make their questions either better or worse, it do help however to lend credibility just as news readers are viewed as authorities and therefore people tend to believe them, however; that does not make it so. Anyway; an open mind whether forwarded by a “sheeple” or a scientist is what tends to yield the “better” questions, Often scientists intimidate themselves purely because they are being told something is not scientific, however - that is off topic and deserves its own thread. but yes; I do get your point and don’t disagree with it per se Nexxo, “did God fake the dino bones” what the heck mate?

    No, space is of course very much as hostile as before but sure development has given us better technology, today high-tech is “cheap” whereas a high quality labour force is expensive, unless you go China, which has been the latest trend in which case you get both for a bargain whilst killing off our own work force and economy, look at the Americans they are frigging bleeding as a result and others are hurting too.

    Of course there is, nothing beats a human perspective, input and feedback. A robot can never ever, fully replace a human. Sure its dangerous, there are a lot of things in life that are dangerous.


    Apologize for the late reply, have been somewhat busy working with frigging welding procedures.


    Cheers
     
  3. Techno-Dann

    Techno-Dann Disgruntled kumquat

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    And remember, folks, not even God himself could sink the Titanic.

    In all seriousness, the Energia/Buran system flew into space all of once, with no crew on board. No, it didn't blow up, but you really can't get a good idea of reliability from a single flight.
     
  4. Grasshopper

    Grasshopper What's a Dremel?

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    Yes, you can't from just one flight, but I know that the Soviet rocket engineers were way ahead of the US ones at that time and I have many reasons to think that they did their job right.
     
  5. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    You're right. The Russians were ahead of us for much of the Space Race. In order to get to the Moon, each side had to achieve certain milestones: 1. Launch a rocket; 2. Launch humans; 3. Orbit; 4. Perform spacewalk and re-enter the craft; 5. Dock two spacecraft.

    I've simplified that a bit, but you get the idea.

    The Russians beat us to just about every one of the milestones. Toward the end, they ran out of money, and their space program stalled. With enough funding, I think they would have beaten us to the Moon.

    -monkey
     
  6. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    It wasn't the funding that troubled them so much - it was getting 30 experimental, complex engines to work reliably together in a launch craft at the same time. Engines that were so advanced they're still being used in a near-unchanged form to this day in some sat-launchers (can't remember which one it is now).

    The Buran project was the one of the many manned projects that was finally killed off with funding troubles.
     
  7. kennethsross

    kennethsross What's a Dremel?

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    Increasingly, I feel Dawkins comes over as primarily an apologist for humanism / atheism. His science seems almost secondary.
     
  8. Nexxo

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    Exactly what I mean. He is not objective --he is on a crusade against religion. That is almost like belief.
     
  9. KayinBlack

    KayinBlack Unrepentant Savage

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    I've always maintained that atheism is a religion. They venerate science as their god, and their fanatical devotion to using it to disprove everything is just as bad as the Christians who don't want to listen to anyone else. There are extremes to everything.

    Most atheists are really agnostics, as they will profess to not know, and not be able to uncover, if there is any evidence of the existence of a god. The ones who vehemently deny the existence of one oftentimes are slaves to that very vehemence-their defense of their point becomes a god to them.

    While this is merely an opinion, and I am not spoiling for a fight today, I do hope it gives a bt of food for thought.
     
  10. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Science can become a religion. But it should be a philosophical tool that enables us to live better. So should faith.
     
  11. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    no more, no less!:thumb:
     
  12. _crazy_crazy_

    _crazy_crazy_ mi mum say's that i'm special

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    nexxo you are now like a god to me lool nicely said
     
  13. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    As the sig says: there is no charge for awesomeness. :p
     
  14. kennethsross

    kennethsross What's a Dremel?

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    Need to warn you, Nexxo. :nono:Slippery slope. :nono:

    (I try not to quote too many verses from the Bible in these posts, but Acts chapter 12, verses 21-23, came to mind as I read the last two posts! - you'll probably call me a Fundie now ;))
     
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  15. DXR_13KE

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    how the hell do you know the exact location of every bloody phrase on that book?
     
  16. Gravemind123

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    It is what I've told my atheist friend, that he does believe in something, he believes strongly in the lack of a god. He claims that people are dumb for believing in a god you can't prove, but at least to me, it is equally assuming to say that there is no possibility for one.

    As you may guess, I am agnostic, and wouldn't be surprised if there is a god and wouldn't be surprised if there isn't one.
     
  17. Techno-Dann

    Techno-Dann Disgruntled kumquat

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    Q. F. T.

    (I hardly even recognized you with the new avatar...)
     
  18. kennethsross

    kennethsross What's a Dremel?

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    Didn't know the exact location. Just knew it was somewhere in the book 'Acts of the Apostles', and went looking for it. (and I do read the Bible quite a bit)
     

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