Hello, if I saw the latest screenshots of win 8, I decided to buy a mac operating system if there is no software support for win7 anymore in far future. When I saw the screenshots of win8, I've the impression Ms tries to copy the windows for mobile phones to computers. Win8 has nothing to do with an operating system for computers, it's more comparable to mobile phones. Maybe that's the future, that I dislike. So, Win8 isn't an option to buy to me. Is there anybody else who already swapped from windows to mac or is in the same opinion as me, when you saw some screenshots of win8? best wishes from Germany
Uhh, I think not. I highly ever doubt I will switch to a mac in any scenario, I'd go free OS first. Win 8 looks decent IMHO, and the ever increasing stability of MS software is only making me want to buy into them more, oh and I can run every piece of software I encounter on my MS machine - that dont happen on a mac. I like Apple, I just dont like them that much to want to limit my options down to a small tiny window of software (especially in gaming). Best of luck and all, to each his own.
variety of software Hello, you are right, the variety of mac software is still rare I hope that will change in near or far future. Free operating systems and mac should be in competition to MS. It can't be Ms has still market power, if Ms decided to introduce new OS, all customers have to buy that new one, if they like the older one and if the older one and all other programs still run quite fine. I don't like monopole of them. I hope it will change in near or far future best wishes from Germany
You need to go look up the definition of monopoly.... Microsoft doesn't, hasn't, and never will have a monopoly in the operating system market. Linux and Unix are large players, just not as large as MS in the home and office environment.
I've never been a fan of the apple phrase... Think Different, if you buy a mac pro it will look the same as your mates mac pro, if he has just bought one. Nothing different about that. I like the OS though, thats why I run ubuntu as my main OS these days
I don't like Apple business model: http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Orde...+Ignorance+About+Mac+Malware/article21693.htm http://www.dailytech.com/Leaked+Doc...l+of+Retail+Store+Employees+/article21915.htm And I never did. They do make nice machines with great attention to details, and provide interesting features such as descent monitors, although clearly overpriced (Quality isn't there.. using metal enclosures != better quality, despite what it seams). And I their snob warranty service is something I can't stand. I hate their monopoly and how they are getting away of it. Probably pushing lobbyist in saying that if they don't have a monopoly Microosft would crush them or something, hence they are getting away. I just can't wait until someone notice that it's full of lies and break their monopoly.
I switched my daily computing to Apple in 2004, and haven't regretted it since. The downside is hardware cost, which is quite high. I have a PC solely for tertiary use, and playing games with the other half. Despite what others say, I've found their warranty service to be way superior to the likes of Dell/HP etc., and the whole 'monopoly' thing overblown (surely MS, with an 80%+ share of the home market has more of a monopoly than Apple with less than 10%? Obviously ignoring enterprise here). I do dual-boot with Windows 7, which gives me access to all my games, so I'm not bothered about software issues.
You might consider the switch to Mac OS on home built hardware before making the full fledged move to Macintosh computing. I know these forums are full of Microsoft fans including myself, MicrosoftPerson . . but there are numerous benefits to knowing the ins and outs of both operating systems. The biggest benefit of knowing both systems would reasonably be your value as a potential employee. Knowing both systems and how they interact is invaluable to many organizations where the primary concern is keeping a reliable steady workflow. An added benefit of being familiar with the Macintosh OS is a large number of production (2d and 3d) studios use the Macintosh system and frankly many of them would prefer not to train you how to use the Finder or watch you struggle with relearning keyboard shortcuts. If you are just a home user then the pros and cons of either operating system are completely subjective. However if you believe that you would benefit from the Macintosh OS environment then it is fairly reasonable to use it as a primary OS because there is far more built in support for running Windows inside of the Mac OS than there is for running Mac OS inside of Windows. Overall however for any sort of professional-minded individual, it is a little bit silly to have a full-fledged alliance to either brand.
xgaynicole1984x, i think you are a bit confused about Windows 8. What you have seen on the screenshots is 2 coins of the same thing. Windows 8 is going to be an operating system for tablets (the Windows Phone 7 like interface) and for desktop (Windows 7 like interface). What is good for desktop (cursor, start menu, small icons, system tray) is not good for tablet or phone. That is why you see the metro interface in Windows 8 as well - because it will be the UI for tablets. The biggest issue with OS X is (and maybe Apple fanatics will beat me for saying this) is the hardware. It looks and works fine, but for some use-case scenarios the hardware is just not powerfull enough. Good example is gaming on Macbooks - you can play TF2 on low details on Macbook Pro 13 2011, but it is not comparable to the desktop PC experience. And unfortunately the remaining MacBook Pro or iMac hardware specs doesn't give you much extra performance either. For work, MacBooks are fine (even if i have few issues with the keyboard layout, especially the missing Home/End/PgUp/PgDn keys emulated by Fn+arrows), but for gaming, you should looks elsewhere. And finally, i think you are a bit confused. You can't just walk in to the Apple store, buy OS X and install it on your PC. You need Apple hardware (MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iMac, Mac mini, Mac Pro).
Just swapped from Pc to a Mac. My main reasons for doing so are: 1) Programming using xcode and Unity 3d. 2) Unix O/S. 3) Yes, boot camp... I can still run Windows when needed. I'm not a gamer, my basic iMac i3 provides more than enough processing power for my needs. I find that both Windows 7 and OSX are excellent operating systems. I honestly cant see what improvements can be made to the OS for Windows 8 or OSX Lion just more eye candy. It would be great if Microsoft was more innovative and Apple less restrictive.
Microsoft is innovative and pushing greatly the industry. That is why Microsoft, has a whole research facility, to test everything they do, and tweak and adjust thing to near or to perfection. Sadly, people like to put all Microsoft efforts as "eye candy" or "bloat", and when someone else does it (Apple). OH WOOOOW soo revolutionary. I am not saying that Apple or Linux is totally non-innovative, not true at all. But I find it that people don't give credits to the right people.
This I agree with. I don't like the look of that UI, however, i believe that is designed for tablets and a "normal" style desktop can also be restored. Furthermore Windows 7 support will go on for a long time yet, there will probably be another MS OS out before Windows 7 support is killed. I don't think this is a justifiable reason to switch to OSX. I am a Mac user myself for my laptop and I love it for that purpose, however, I run Win 7 on my Desktop. This is mainly because I play games on it but its also useful to run Windows programs. I also feel that OSX systems seem to outlast Windows based systems in terms of the OS requirements. Oh yeah, and the build quality of Apple Notebooks is outstanding. Anyway I think you should stick with Win 7 until more information is released about Win 8, and then if you dont like it then stick with Win 7.
Agreed, a 200$ laptop is cheaper build than a near 2000$ Apple laptop, like any 2000$ or so PC laptop are equally outstanding with also crazy features such as back light keyboard, and metal enclosure, and ridiculous long battery life (7-10h+), all by having great power and small size. You get what you paid for, is what you meant. Apple laptop are expensive, but the build quality is there. My point is that this hold true for everything, and not Apple systems.
It's somewhat early to jump ship. While I'm as concerned as anyone about the tablet on a desktop look we have seen with win8, I'm going to wait and see what the RC is like before proclaiming the end for Windows on desktops. Remember we have only really seen the start menu so far, and considering I actively avoid using the mess which is the win7 start menu I'm willing to give anything a trial. Personally the little I've used OSx, I've enjoyed it. I very much like the way the mail app works and the pop up application folder. I'd consider buying a mac (I'm a sucker for their case/monitor design) but they don't cater to my needs (the ability to play games).
Making decisions about upcoming versions of Windows at this time is ridiculous... they have released some very very early and vague screenshots which I can almost guarantee will not be how the final version will look. Even if I didn't like Windows 8 when it did come out, I would just stick to 7... sure as hell would not be switching to Mac. I use Windows for a reason - stuff works on it. But personally I am very much liking the preview Windows 8 look. But at least wait until they start releasing Beta's before you start making judgements and changing your outlook on Microsoft. It really is far too early to form any kind of opinion.
Why don't you try a Hackintosh? (i.e. you run OSX on your PC) Its not too difficult to do, plus its cool to try out OSX and see if you like it.
Perhaps it's because when Apple did eye candy, it did it so much better than Microsoft. Only since Windows Vista does the GUI not look like something designed by Fisher Price. And then only because Apple raised the game with OSX. If it wasn't for that, Windows 7 would still look like Windows 2000. Apple has gone a little overboard at times (its Time Machine is a bit P.T. Barnum-esque) but it pays attention to presentation. Basically, its GUI is designed by graphic designers. Microsoft's GUI is designed by the same engineers who code it. It shows.
Of course this is true but even looking at the lower end (£800ish) plastic systems, which I appreciate aren't exactly budget systems, you see quite a few systems that I feel are inferior in terms of build quality.
While true for option panels... but in reality it's not. The Zune software, Zune Music player, Windows Phone 6.5, Windows Phone 7, Office 2007/2010, Visual Studio 2010, are clear recent examples of nice and proper design layout, done by designers. Same applies for older versions of Microsoft products... the problem with Microsoft products is that they are packed with features, which designers needs to work around it. MacOS has features you can count with your hands, and even goes up to remove feature because they don't look nice when implemented (Final Cut Pro X anyone?) Function and security (and this point) goes WAY before looks. And if you want the contrary, well that is just foolish. Anyway, this is getting off topic.
All those examples of Microsoft's work were after Apple started to worry them with its first iteration of OSX. It is a little known factoid that Windows XP was going to look like Windows Me. Then OSX betas hit the market. Microsoft immediately went to the Iconfactory --which designs icons for Apple software-- and commissioned them to design the icons for Windows XP. Subsequently they were commissioned to do the same for Vista, which was another level up in competition with OSX. Windows offers a lot of features, but six different ways of doing the same thing is not necessarily useful for ordinary users. They get confused. Moreover many features are often hidden, hard to access or just plain inconsistent across different applications in even the same suite (I cannot count how many people do not understand the vagaries of Word table formatting --especially as Powerpoint and Publisher table formatting works in a subtly different way). Function is important, but kind of pointless without the user friendliness that allows easy access to it. And before we slate Apple shops for their control of store employees, I invite you to tangle with the Microsoft Help Desk a few times.
