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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by strader, 6 Nov 2008.

  1. strader

    strader What's a Dremel?

    6 Nov 2008
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    Hey guys, this is my first post on Bit-tech's love the site btw.

    I have a problem dont know what I should get. Perhaps you guys can help me out.

    Here's what I had in mind-
    1.Alienware M17® Total = £2350

    Graphics Processor : Dual 512MB ATI® Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 – CrossFireX™ Enabled!
    Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme X9100 3.06GHz (6MB Cache 1066MHz FSB)
    Display: 17-inch WideUXGA 1920 x 1200 LCD (1200p) with Clearview Technology
    Fingerprint Reader: Integrated Biometric Fingerprint Reader
    Keyboard Options: Non-Illuminated Keyboard - English
    Memory: 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SO-DIMM at 1067MHz - 2 x 2048MB
    System Drive: Extreme Performance - RAID 0 - 500GB 7200 RPM SATA (2 x 250GB) with Free Fall Protection
    Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 64-bit - English
    Notebook Tuners and Remotes: Without Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner
    Optical Drives: 8x Dual Layer Burner (DVD±RW, CD-RW) with LightScribe Technology
    Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel® Ultimate N 5300 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card with MIMO Technology
    Sound Hardware: Internal High-Definition Audio with Surround Sound
    Essential Christmas Bundles: Gaming Bundle
    • Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    • Logitech Digital Precision PC Gaming Headset
    Save £30
    Warranty: AlienCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return
    AlienContact: Added Bonus with any AlienSupport Selection
    AlienContact - Remote Alienware Support
    Port Adapters : HDMI to DVI-D Adapter
    Mobile Transport: Alienware® Orion Backpack
    Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mobile Binder
    Alienware Extras: Alienware® Owner Identification Card
    Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
    Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mousepad
    Alienware Extras: Alienware® Sticker

    Alienware Extras: M17 Keyboard Diagram Overlay
    Alienware Extras: M17 Protective Cloth Sleeve

    2.XPSTM M1730 (N11X7304)
    Date & Time: Wednesday 5 November 2008 10:17 PM
    XPSTM M1730 (N11X7304) Qty 1
    Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor X9000 (2.80GHz, 800MHz FSB, 6MB L2-cache), Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium SP1- English Unit Price Incl. VAT £2,733.77
    Get Free upgrade to 640GB Hard Drive until 12/11/2008
    Expires 12 November 2008
    Save £250 (Inc Vat) until 12/11/2008
    Expires 12 November 2008
    - £250.00
    Get 5% off!
    Expires 05 November 2008
    - £124.19
    Catalog Number: 20211 N11X7304
    Module Description Show Details

    Base Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme Processor X9000 (2.80GHz, 800MHz FSB, 6MB L2-cache)
    Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium SP1- English
    Memory 4096MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x2048]
    Keyboard Uk/Irish Internal Keyboard (QWERTY)
    Video Card DUAL SLI 512MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8800GTX card
    Hard Drive 640GB Free Fall Sensor Raid 0 Stripe - 2 X 320GB (7200RPM) Hard Drive
    Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse - Adjustable sensitivity, interchangeable grips, weight tuning
    Optical Devices Blu-ray Disc Combo (DVD+/-RW + BD-ROM)
    Wireless Networking Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-PCI Card, EUR
    Cables UK/Irish Additional 220V AC Adapter Power Cord
    Shipping Documents English Documentation
    Gedis Bundle Reference N11X7304
    Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 / English - (Does not include Microsoft® Word)
    Standard Warranty 1Yr XPS Premium Warranty Support - Priority Call In and Onsite Support
    Enhanced Service Packs 1Yr XPS Premium Warranty Support - Priority Call In and Onsite Support
    Protect your new PC McAfee® Security Centre™ 9.0 - 15 Month Protection - English
    Power Supply AC Adapter 230W
    USB Memory Keys Lexar 8GB Jumpdrive Firefly
    Bluetooth Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth 2.0 Module (up to 3 Mbps) with Enhanced Data Rate EUR
    Placemat Eng, Frn, Ger, Spn Placemat XPS M1730
    Order Information Inspiron Order - UK
    Primary Battery Primary 9-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (85 WHr)
    Carrying Cases XPS M1730 Backpack Carrying Case
    Dell System Media Kit Resource DVD XPS M1730 - (Diagnostics & Drivers)
    Colour Choice Crimson Red with White LED Backlights
    Accidental Damage Support No Accidental Damage Support
    TV Tuner and Remote Control Dell™ Travel Remote Control
    Online Promotion Option for GEDIS Configs Dell Internet Order
    ISP Software UK Internet Service Provider (Orange & Tiscali)
    LCD 17.0" UltraSharp™ WUXGA (1920x1200) TFT with TrueLife™ with Integrated 2.0MP web cam

    TOTAL Incl. VAT:£2,359.58

    Additional Discounts and Coupons
    Get Free Shipping until 12/11/2008
    Expires 12 November 2008
    Total excl. VAT VAT Rate Total incl. VAT
    Sub-total £2,008.15 17.50 % £2,359.58
    Total Delivery Charge £17.02 17.50 % £20.00
    Delivery Charge Discount -£17.02 17.50 % -£20.00
    Total Price Qosmio X300-13W £2,008.15 £2,359.58

    No Payments Until May 2009*
    More information on financing

    3.Toshiba Qosmio X300-13W total = £2299

    Processor type : Intel® Core™2 Extreme Processor QX9300
    clock speed : 2.53 GHz
    Front Side Bus : 1066 MHz
    2nd level cache : 12 MB
    Operating system Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium Edition (pre-installed, Toshiba-HDD recovery)

    System memory standard : 4,096 (2,048 + 2,048) MB
    maximum expandability : 8,192 MB
    technology : DDR3 RAM (1066 MHz)
    Hard disk capacity : 640 (320 + 320) GB
    certification : S.M.A.R.T.
    DVD Super Multi drive (Double Layer) compatibility : CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-R(DL), DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R(DL), DVD+RW, DVD-RAM
    maximum speed : Read: 24x CD-ROM, 8x DVD-ROM/ Write: 24x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 10x HS CD-RW, 24x US CD-RW, 8x DVD-R, 6x DVD-R (Double Layer), 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+R, 6x DVD+R (Double Layer), 8x DVD+RW, 5x DVD-RAM
    type : DVD Super Multi (Double Layer) drive
    Display size : 17 "
    type : Toshiba TruBrite® WSXGA+ TFT High Brightness display
    internal resolution : 1,680 x 1,050
    Graphics adapter manufacturer : NVIDIA®
    type : NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800M GTS with NVIDIA® SLI™ technology supporting TurboCache™ technology
    memory : 2x512 MB dedicated VRAM (up to 1,791 MB total available graphics memory using TurboCache™ technology with 3 GB system memory)
    memory type : GDDR3 (800 MHz) Video RAM (resp. Video RAM and system memory combined)
    connected bus : 16x PCI Express
    Internal video modes
    Max External Video Modes Max Resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
    Max Refresh Rate : 85 Hz
    Non-interlaced resolution with max refresh rate : 1,280 x 1,024
    Interfaces 1 x DC-in
    1 x RJ-11
    1 x RJ-45
    1 x i.LINK® (IEEE 1394)
    1 x external microphone
    1 x RGB
    1 x headphone (stereo)
    1 x line-in shared with microphone socket
    1 x S/PDIF-out (optical) shared with headphone socket
    1 x integrated 1.3 Megapixels Web Camera with built-in microphone
    1 x HDMI-CEC (REGZA-Link) supporting 1080p signal format
    1 x line-out shared with headphone socket
    1 x 5-in-1 Bridge Media slot (supports SD™ Cards up to 16 GB, Memory Stick® up to 256 MB, Memory Stick Pro™ up to 4 GB, MultiMedia Card™ up to 2 GB and xD-Picture Card™ up to 2 GB)
    3 (Left 1, Right 2) x USB 2.0 Sleep-and-Charge
    1 (Left) x eSATA/USB 2.0 Sleep-and-Charge
    1 x DisplayPort
    Expansion 2 x memory slots (1 to configure)
    1 x ExpressCard slot
    Wireless communication Wireless Technology : Bluetooth®
    Compliancy : Wi-Fi®
    Network Support : 802.11b/g/Draft-N
    Wireless Technology : Wireless LAN
    Wired communication topology : international V.90 modem (V.92 ready)
    speed : 56 Kbps data and 14.4 Kbps fax
    topology : Gigabit Ethernet LAN
    speed : 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX/1000BASE-T
    Sound system supported audio format : 24-bit stereo
    speakers : built-in Harman Kardon® stereo speaker system with 2 x bass reflex speakers, 2 x tweeter speakers and 1 x subwoofer technology
    manufacturer : Toshiba Bass Enhanced Sound System with Dolby® Home Theater™
    Keyboard keys : 105
    Windows keys : Yes
    special features : Standard numeric keypad
    Pointing device type : Touch Pad
    Battery technology : lithium-ion
    maximum life : currently no official Windows Vista® battery benchmark result available
    AC adaptor input voltage : autosensing AC adapter (100/240 V) for worldwide usage
    Physical dimensions W x D x H : 412 x 306 x 43.2 (front) / 62.5 (rear) mm
    weight : starting at 4.3 kg
    Warranty 1-year international warranty. Upgrade your standard warranty with Toshiba warranty extension, uplift and all-risks insurance packs.
    Bundled hardware AC Power Cable
    AC adaptor
    ExpressCard type Remote Control for Windows Vista®
    Bundled software Toshiba Bluetooth™ Monitor
    Toshiba Disc Creator
    Toshiba User's Manual
    Supervisor Password Utility
    Chicony Camera Assistant Software
    Toshiba DVD Player
    Ulead® DVD MovieFactory® for TOSHIBA
    Toshiba Face Recognition
    McAfee® Internet Security Suite 2008 - Toshiba Edition (includes free Internet updates for 30 days)
    Toshiba Recovery Disc Creator
    Dolby® Control Center
    HDMI Control Manager
    Microsoft® Works, Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 (free 60-day trial)
    Toshiba Value Added Package (Toshiba Power Saver, Toshiba Zooming Utility, Toshiba PC Diagnostic Tool, Toshiba Flash Cards, Toshiba Components Common Driver, Toshiba Accessibility, Toshiba Button Support)
    Google Software (Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Desktop, Picasa)
    Toshiba Bluetooth™ Stack
    Connectivity Doctor
    Toshiba utilities and drivers
    Toshiba Assist
    Toshiba EasyMedia Toshiba TEMPRO Performance Tuning Service
    Wireless LAN (802.11b/g/ Draft-N)
    Google Software (Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Desktop, Picasa)
    USB & USB/eSATA Sleep-and-Charge
    Bluetooth® 2.1 with EDR
    McAfee® Internet Security Suite 2008 - Toshiba Edition
    Toshiba Face Recognition
    Smart Display Support
    Toshiba Flash Cards
    Easy Keys
    Remote Control
    Fingerprint Reader-Single Sign On
    Internal HD 720p support
    5 Harman Kardon® Stereo Speakers (incl. Subwoofer)
    Dolby® Home Theater™
    Dual HDD
    Toshiba ConfigFree™
    Integrated Bridge Media Adapter
    Diversity Antenna
    Built-in camera & microphone
    Security features main battery pack (by sliding latch)
    main memory (by screw)
    supervisor password
    slot for Kensington Cable Lock
    user password
    system password security
    main hard disk (by screw)
    Special features SM BIOS compliant
    integrated microphone for Voice over IP
    Enhanced Intel® SpeedStep® Technology
    integrated 1.3 Megapixels Web Camera for Video over IP
    Multimedia Bar with 9 feather-touch Easy Keys (CD/DVD launcher, Play/Pause, Stop, Rewind, Forward, Mute, on/off function of white LEDs, Camera, Dolby)
    Certification This product is in compliance with the requirements of the applicable European Directives for CE marking.

    4.Sager 9262 Total = ~ £2250
    Sager 9262 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Desktop Replacement Gaming Notebook (Built on Clevo D901C) Qty: 1
    30 Day No Questions Asked Money Back Guarantee! (Others only give you 15 days) Qty: 1
    No Notebook Skin Qty: 1
    17" WUXGA Super Clear Ultra Bright Glossy w/ Wide Viewing Angle (1920x1200) Qty: 1
    2X Dual nVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTX w/1gb (1024mb x 2) DX10PCI-Express (User Upgradeable!) Qty: 1
    Intel® Core 2Quad™ Q9550 | 12MB L2 Cache | 2.83GHz | 1,066MHz FSB Qty: 1
    4096MB (4GB) DDR2 800MHz (2 SODIMMs) (Requires 64 Bit Operating System) Qty: 1
    RAID 0 (Data Stripping - Requires 2 Identical Hard Drives) Qty: 1
    200GB | 7200 RPM | SATA II (16MB Cache Buffer) Qty: 1
    Add 2nd 200GB | 7200 RPM | SATA-300 HDD Qty: 1
    No 3rd Hard Drive Qty: 1
    8X DVD±R / RW / 4X + Dual Layer Drive with Software Qty: 1
    Built in Intel Pro Wireless Wi-Fi Link 5300 802.11 A/G/N Qty: 1
    Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition Qty: 1
    Standard Full Range Auto Switching AC Power Adapter Qty: 1
    Deluxe Black Business Carrying Case (Free!) Qty: 1
    No Office Software Qty: 1
    Sager 3 Yr Labor, 1 Yr Parts Warranty (Yrs 2+3 paid by PCT) Lifetime 24/7 Domestic Support Qty: 1
    (No Accidental Protection Policy) Qty: 1 $3,858.00 $3,858.00

    Estimate Shipping
    Country [United States \/]
    Shipping Method [Ground \/]
    Shipping Estimate $46.29

    Subtotal $3,858.00
    Shipping $46.29
    Tax *
    Credit Price $3,904.29
    Cash Discount Price ** $3,788.55
    Savings $115.74

    So what do you guys think ?
    Which one will do the job, it's for gaming mostly, dont need batery life.

    Or do you guys know off something better out there ?

    Thanks for the replies.
  2. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

    1 Jan 2007
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    I'd recommend you think long and hard about getting a gaming laptop or not.
    Since getting mine I've been wishing had a PC. My reasoning in getting one was I move around alot and didn't want the baggage of a PC as don't own a car or for when I move overseas. Shipping a PC costs a small fortune!

    From my 2yrs experience of 17inch brute of a gaming laptop I'd advise not to get one. Rather invest in a SFF Gaming PC if you want easy portablity for LAN's. Shuttle even does a nice bag to carry your RIG and Monitor.

    But if your set on the idea of owning a gaming laptop.....
    Alienware: avoid like the plague, overpriced piece of plastic
    Dell XPS: avoid like the flu, overpriced over featured LED rich piece of plastic (check out the second hand market though as can bag a bargain)
    Toshiba: no comment, never realised they had a gaming laptop, though looks again overpriced but end of the day i'd never buy Toshiba
    Sager: better value and if I only had 4 notebooks to choose from the 1 i'd get for sure, the clevo chassis' are brill, my laptop if Evesham Voyager DC720 which is a clevo

    If I was to get another 17inch gaming laptop I'd definately get a Clevo. Would shop around to find a Clevo white book. IMO you money is wasted on SLI.
    Get a Clevo 17inch chassis, 9800gtx, have the res lower at 1440x900 for longevity, 4GB of mem, definatelily get a 7200RPM H/D and get a mid range cpu. QX's are overpriced, its the GPU thats important. I say go for the lower native res as a year ago or more I was fine for gaming on 1920x1200 but now new games barely playable which would be ok on 1440x900. Do the above and your laptop should come in around 1200-1600.(not looked into prices on this for an age). You can use the change to build a descent gaming pc.

    Do note that you WILL want to invest in an external monitor and keyboard. Gaming on a laptop without then sucks bigtime.

    p.s. Dell XPS 1530 and 1330 are awesome laptops but not for high end gaming.
  3. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

    1 Jan 2007
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    The alienware 15incher with 9800gtx is kewl and I'd recomend it except its stupidly expensive.
  4. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

    28 Nov 2003
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    Sager, definitely. If only for the gfx cards that're in it. Avoid Alienware as their customer service can be appalling.
    Dell 2nd hand if you can get the spec. Toshiba aren't bad but the Sager seems better for similar price.
  5. strader

    strader What's a Dremel?

    6 Nov 2008
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    Well looks like the Sager is the better choice, should I go for the Quad core or should I perhaps rather go with the E8500 as I dont see the use of paying $100 more for the E8600.

    thanks for the replies so far.

    P.S. what do you guys think of Rock Laptops ? I think they are a bit over priced.
  6. strader

    strader What's a Dremel?

    6 Nov 2008
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    So no more advise ? :waah:

    Please guys help me out, I dont want to waste money on the top end stuff when I can get similar performace from a less expensive laptop.

    It's only for gaming so I dont need all of the fancy stuff, maybe watching a movie now and then on it, but I dont need a finger print reader or webcam, although a webcam can be usefull sometimes.

    Thanks for the responses so far.
  7. Denis_iii

    Denis_iii What's a Dremel?

    1 Jan 2007
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    rock is good but beware
    i bought evesham, evesham went bust and rock almost went bust but were lucky enough to be bought out by rich guy thats why they still in biz
  8. spectre456

    spectre456 What's a Dremel?

    29 Dec 2007
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    there are other good laptop brands out there like MSI and Asus with their g50 series. the prices seemed ok. if your going to be gaming only, then i would use half of that suggested money to get a desktop pc which is more powerful and upgradable depending on how you build/buy it.

    i built a pc (with some bit-tech advice :clap:) for about 550 pounds excluding a monitor and it can run crysis on high with a solid frame rate. considering the fact that most of your choices are over 2000 pounds, you can buy a "normal" laptop for about 1000 pounds then use whats left o build/buy a desktop.
    just my advice
  9. RinSewand

    RinSewand What's a Dremel?

    11 Sep 2006
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    To go with what you asked, I'd say grab a dual core. Most games at the moment don't make any noticable use of quadcore, use the change to buy a nice laptop bag or something.

  10. bigsharn

    bigsharn Officially demotivated

    9 May 2008
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    I'd buy a smoothcreations if I had the money to waste, just for the novelty :)

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