Gates warns Afghanistan is a "litmus test" for NATO

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  1. Cthippo

    Cthippo Can't mod my way out of a paper bag

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    So, basically the rest of the world is wrong if they don't help the US clean up the mess it made by unilaterally invading two soviergn nations?
     
  2. Gravemind123

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    Yes, it seemed quite simple to me, I still don't see why people have trouble understanding this simple concept. America is right, terrorists are wrong. If they don't help us they are with the terrorists. I can't make this any simpler. [/extreme sarcasm]

    Yep, the US messed up, but the people in power will never admit it, nothing new here really. We never lose wars, we never make mistakes, we are always right. No matter what evidence to the contrary, the administration will never say that because of something they did any of those three sentiments aren't true, because admitting mistakes makes you "weak" or something. The real weakness here is giving into pride and wasting American lives rather then admit our mistakes. Although, it is a terrible political move to admit mistakes, so no one will officially admit it.
     
  3. Jumeira_Johnny

    Jumeira_Johnny 16032 - High plains drifter

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    I'm always wrong when I don't help clean up my wife's mess around the house. I don't see why everyone else should be different. Granted, she hasn't invaded any sovereign nations....yet.


    Are there non-sovereign nations? out of curiosity.
     
  4. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    Taiwan?
     
  5. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    You could argue Somalia, where government rule is a bit shaky. Come to that, present-day Iraq and Afghanistan are hardly self-determining countries. Or maybe you could include any country reliant on foreign aid, like Israel.

    I'd really like to know why NATO are involved in Afghanistan. I thought that particular invasion was just revenge for 9/11;
    Now we've been there so long and done so little good that nobody likes us.
    So who are we shooting at, terrorists or freedom fighters?
     
  6. Gravemind123

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    Terrorists if they don't like us, freedom fighters if we support their cause. To be honest, the US involvement in the middle east could be called neo-imperialism. If not that, our actions have been resoundingly bad, we went in there, ousted the regime that had control and then went to concentrate elsewhere rather then putting our effort into rebuilding Afghanistan and trying to establish a fully working government. The country is now fighting to take itself back rather then allow America to just it in inside of it doing seemingly nothing because no one cares about anything but Iraq.
     

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