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News GayGamer.net subject to hate crimes

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 6 Aug 2007.

  1. topher

    topher SHam!

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    The fact is we've been forced by liberal's and the government to accept black and all colours inbetween, so much so that we now feel we have to cut them some slack and be sympathetic to their problem and need's. Problem and needs they have basicly brought apon themselves theirfore when some great atroscity is brought apon them we feel the need to be up in arms and brand the nearest non colour '' raceist''. And now of course we are being forced again to accept homosexuals for what they are yet the bible states clearly that what they do is wrong and sinful for which they shall all go to hell. Leviticus 18:22: “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”
     
  2. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    I sincerely hope that English isn't your first language..
    If it is, then you really don't have much going for you, do you? :rolleyes:


    Gotta love the detritus that comes crawling out of the woodwork when these topics arise.
    It doesn't bring out the worst in people, so much as it paints a poor picture of society when we see the kind of dark ages ******** people still cling to and inflict on others in this day and age.
    Keep religion out of it.
     
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  3. topher

    topher SHam!

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    What makes you think your opinion is better than his ? What makes you think you have the right to call him dumb ?
     
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  4. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    Though it wasn't aimed at me...
    For a start, a tolerant, open-minded world-view not based on backwards, moronic, hateful, harmful religious indoctrination tends to lend some credence to someone's views.

    I'll steadfastly refer to anyone who holds such prejudice against any innocent group within society as morons.
    Especially when they can't even formulate their own views without relying on religious dogma to make themselves feel better about being so disgustingly hateful.
    That refers to you, Topher, moreso than Elthomsono, but his 'reasoning' probably isn't all that different from yours if you trace it back far enough anyway.
     
  5. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    I always look upon the television program, "Goodness Gracious Me" as proof that a race of people can have a laugh at themselves and have people of other races laugh at/with them, too.

    qft.. it'd pay for people to stop being so up their own arse some of the time. Chill out!
     
  6. Oclocker

    Oclocker New Member

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    hi, i do understand the desire for the gaynet idea - and as long as straight (but nae narrow) users are welcome fine.
    Homophobes are of two kinds - uneducated and nasty psycho sorts - comments like swafemens are of the first kind (still a sad reflection on person issueing such drivel imho). the website attack is the 2nd type - and sad thing is these rabid homophobes don't realise why they are such illogical hatemongers. Several phsychological experiments have found some interesting results.

    A large number of subjects were wired up to equipment that measured their response to watching gay porn. Strangely the people that say "straight but def 100%!!! not a poofter" had much more recorded arousal than the "straight but not narrow" people.
    Its believed that extreme homophobes have problems accepting their gay side .. I think i am very straight - but not a
    big deal tbh. I think the MD of a certain homophobic oc site in the uk is one such example of a homophobe who is really part bi-sexual.
     
  7. Oclocker

    Oclocker New Member

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    can i say as liberally as i can... fcuk offski!
     
  8. ElThomsono

    ElThomsono Well-Known Member

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    Well for one thing, he can't spell.

    I consider his opinion backwards and even downright bigoted, both of which I think to be inferior to a more accepting, understanding approach.

    Basically, by saying "finnaly hackers done a usefull peice of work" he agrees that he'd like to be shot of a website advocating gaygamers. I strongly dislike people who hold views like those, do you think he's fair in censoring people he doesn't like?
     
  9. topher

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    Ok we'll put it this without the religious Dogma Homosexuals are wrong and their all going to hell. They are slowly but surley destroying the fabric of society, eroding away all morals that once where the keystones to society. I do not wish my children to be subjected to two males kissing in the street or two females for that matter. As i have an open-mind and as you say a ''world view'' i was able to formulate my own opinion, i simply used some relegious txt as a reference to how homosexuality is portrayed by most christians. As i hold fast to my views, and as such will not rubbish another mans opinion over my own unlike you. I simply seek to give my opinion on the subject. As for poeple telling people to f&%* off you just know these are the brainless idiots that simply have to follow the herd, and cant think of much else to say.
     
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    I agree, I am uneducated, with my 5 A levels, and having graduated last week from a Top 5 University.

    I understand its not going to be all jigglypuff and barbie, but I dont see why its needed? Its not like they have special 'gay' games like id indicated,... games are games, if the gamers that differ, so why do they need a special site ? If the games were different, then this could be understood, for example a childrens games site, going to be full of fred flintstone, or whatever the kids watch these days, and no manhunt 2, but at the end of the day, surely gamers just play the same games as you and I?

    Everyone has their opinions, and each persons differ, so your always going to get conflicts, if people want to be gay, then let them do it its their choice and if thats how they want to spend and enjoy their lives, let them be, I just hate how its rammed down our throats and you cannot say anything right, if I made a site for the other section of gamers, - straight ones and called it imnotagaygamer.com and was all about how we should play beat em ups and fps because were all manly and the like - it would probably have been off the net a long time ago.
     
  12. Bauul

    Bauul Sir Bongaminge

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    Be careful of using religious interpretations to guide you on how to live your life. A quick read through of Genesis can result in the perfectly valid interpretation that if it wasn't for Satan, we wouldn't even have free will.

    By all means believe what you like, but be careful it doesn't prejudice you against people with no due cause or reason.
     
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  13. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    I think the message Bigturk was trying to get across is similar to that of D3s3rt_F0x's in that a community should be global, not segregated. Segregation IS a major proponent for causing wars, battles, etc.. I know a previous poster said to leave religion out of it, but religion is such a damn good example of what segregation causes.

    Tbh, what do you expect when you set a website up for a group of people that WANT to be different? How about if I set up a website for people with dark hair? Those with blonde hair, no hair, ginger hair would be as welcome as anyone else, but there would always be a few that would be much happier if the website didn't exist, based purely upon the colour of their hair.

    It really doesn't matter if you have three heads or no pubes, everyone online is the same.
     
  14. Bauul

    Bauul Sir Bongaminge

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    Now you see, personally, I disagree. I used to be a prevelant poster on the Iron Maiden forum, a forum for people who liked Iron Maiden. Should that be shut down because not everyone likes Iron Maiden? Certainly someone who didn't like Iron Maiden wouldn't be welcome there, as the purpose of the site was to be an Iron Maiden fan site.

    People ARE different, everyone is unique, why should we try to stamp these differences out, it's what makes it interesting to be human. I'm guessing gaygamer.net was as much about being gay as it was about playing games, and as such, it's every right to exist.
     
  15. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    Try formulating that one as an actual sentence and I'll respond in kind.

    I'm going to assume, for your own sake, that you meant 'surely' in place of 'surley' and 'were' in place of 'where'.
    To your actual point which you so succinctly make: Show me the logic behind it, if there is any.
    Social acceptance of homosexuality does not encourage the erosion of society's morality, it merely challenges archaic, narrow-minded views towards something that isn't 'normal' or 'acceptable' to the blind-faith ignorant masses.

    Why?
    You're afraid, perhaps, that they might be gay?
    Oh what a travesty that would be!
    I'd say that sarcastically if I wasn't quite sure that you're the kind of ignorant parent who would make any gay child miserable. I'd say I pity your children, but you're the one I really pity.

    You seem to think that I was implying some people have world views and others don't. Your lack of any real grasp of logic is worrying, as is your proficiency with your first language.....or lack thereof.
    What I was implying, in fact, was that you have a world-view (just as anyone does), but that yours has been poisoned by religious dogma and centuries of ignorance and hate.

    Yes, you did a fantastic job of illustrating the ignorant, hateful view encouraged by your religious text.
    You'll actually find, if you were to leave your bible studies for a while, that in the real world, the majority of Christians aren't quite so hateful towards homosexuals - only the ignorant ones who take leaps of blind faith and take passages from an ancient fantasy novel literally, and then base their views on it.
    Try fast-forwarding to 2007, you might find that things have changed a little.


    I'll gladly rubbish anyone's opinion when it's as moronic and hateful as yours.
    By your 'logic', Hitler's opinions on Jews and Homosexuals were valid too, just because they were his opinions.
    Sadly for you, reality doesn't quite work like that. Try reading up on some St. Thomas Aquinas - Religious fellow, you might like him. He writes a very good text on Knowledge, Opinion, Faith & Belief.
    By the way, as far as I'm concerned, your opinion is rubbish.

    Coming from a person who justifies their ignorance with the ever-useful "it's my opinion" argument alongside quotes from the bible.

    ...Right. :rolleyes:
     
  16. kenco_uk

    kenco_uk I unsuccessfully then tried again

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    That's what I'm on about - until you stated that you are/were a fan of Iron Maiden, I wouldn't have had a clue. Do you see what I'm trying to get at? Yes, I wholeheartedly agree that everyone is unique and that there should be fanclubs up the yingyang, I wasn't disputing that at all, but an online presence is so faceless that, IMO, it shouldn't really matter!
     
  17. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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    What does your sexuality have to do with gaming?

    Should I go and start a site called ginger gamer, what does that achieve?
     
  18. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    You should, Jamie!
    Nobody will DoS you, they'll just poke fun and ask for some crunchy ginger nuts! :p
     
  19. Bauul

    Bauul Sir Bongaminge

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    Ah but that's my point too! GayGamer.net is as much about being gay as playing games. If it was only about playing games than I agree, sexuality is totally irelevant for playing games, but it's not, it's also about the fact its readers are gay. Behind every faceless online presence is a person, and if that person is gay, and wants to be in a environment that is about being gay, that's what the website is for.

    Simply by the fact the content of the site differs from a none sexual orientated website implies there is a difference between a community of straight gamers and a community of gay gamers, and a such, as there is a difference, the website's existence is justified.

    Though I'm getting the impression i'm the only person who thinks this. :hehe:
     
  20. Ramble

    Ramble Ginger Nut

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    I'll join up ginger gamer, for a 'race' of people who are so obviously superior (in intellect, looks and generally everything) it's suprising we don't have our own gaming website.

    Let me guess, topher is the religious right kind of man who thinks everything was better back in 'the old days' when society had morals and everyone was polite to each other.
    Well, I'm sure you'll be at the next stoning of all the homosexuals and prostitutes then, you know, just like your bible tells you to.

    I absolutely hate anyone that says 'Yarr, you're going to burn in Hell' (why they sound like a pirate is unknown to me).
    I'd be grateful for an example of a gay person eroding society, and I truely feel sorry for your kids who will most likely be brought up and accept the same ignorant views you do.
     
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