wouldnt b surprised to see that never change either. they're working on it, but also said in twitter "dont hold ur breath". and speaking of jets and chopper, its so awful that they dummify BF2's controls. it was PERFECT (IMHO) in BF2. it wasnt easy to learn, but once u master it, u get results. now its just a bunch of flyboys wannabies that get shot down by any half-decent engineer who unlocked AA. and 3rd person view?? ugh.... i was overpowered in BF2, and i somewhat agree, but this is more than just a nerf. this is a sterilize. i LOVE air vehicles in BF2 (from blackhawks to F-18), and im excited to see them in BF3. but in all honesty, i wouldn't miss it if they take it away if their state is like the ones in BETA. thats saying alot for me. guess ill be ranking tanks first. oh well. nothing's perfect. but im sure ill still enjoy this game!