Other General Battlefield 3 discussion thread

No need to be dumb to be base raped. A stacked team can easily outperform a bunch of randoms, and when they kill you at the moment of spawn from the helicopters or jets, you can't do anything against it, even if you are a superman.

 

In the last month it's gotten worse! All i see on a daily basis is I want a refund, I want my money back, I got robbed, this doesn't work, this game is s*** and so on!

Christ on a bike, WHAT HAS HAPPENED to the mature Battlefield Community!?

 

That's surprising, I was on since 8pm and it was often clan TCDF who were on their own voice com (+ me and angryman) versus CPC (Dom/Megamale/markcuk) and ATID (dexta). The autobalancer ran every round. There was one absolutely fantastic battle on Strike at Karkand where dexta and megamale (+ four or five engineers) locked most of our team into points F & G but once I got in a tank with support from angryman we were able to break this and push out via F (my team still lost despite me going 51-10 but hey it's conquest not TDM). Nonetheless, if you see my name on the scoreboard on the CPC server, send me a message in chat, there is zero tolerance for uncap base raping. Other thing is, we always have CPC members on either side (as a result of the balancer) and due to voice coms we generally know very quickly if someone on our team is baseraping.

@NaloaC: Regarding bunny hopping, it only makes you go about 10% further distance-wise, and it doesn't make people harder to hit - they cannot react whilst jumping so they're likely to die a hell of a lot more if they encounter enemies. The video Juppun linked above explains this and if you observe the mechanics there is no combat advantage, only a slight speed advantage. Demize99 has no plans to remove it from the game either.

 

I think I have read them once or twice and I will never read them again. It's incredible the level of stupid that is so prevalent there.

The 'mature' Battlefield gamers I think know to keep their mouths shut and fingers away from the keyboard because they know that Battlefield games have never been perfect and that there is no need to whine and piss and moan about every little thing like a child.

Sure the game has flaws and you know what, for every 5 games I have, if one round has an epic moment of "HOLY F***BALLS! That was EPIC!" Battlefield moments, then I am more than happy to keep playing.

 

I know fella, but it's simply something that we have implemented for the last 6 years and it's not something that we're going to relinquish any time soon

We don't tolerate it, but we don't mean to irk or annoy people in any sense, simply a case of our server, our rules.

 

first, i'd like to remind people that the CPC server is NOT a clan server. it is a public server, everyone is equal, no one get special treatment. consider a privilege to play on it with/against people you know from the forums.




not sure if it's bunny hopping, but i always jump the very last few steps when i am about to go around a corner while getting shot at. it's pretty much any person will do in real life or in any game.

my god, wtf?

base raping is wrong. how can you deal with base rapers if you get killed as soon as you spawn? how can you get back into battle if you can't even get out of your base? 16 players behind cover with guns pointed at a single (or the very few) base exit makes it pretty impossible to get out of the base. base rape cannot be tolerant, base rape is no different to stats peddling.

i have no problem for you to clan stack on your clan servers. it's what you paid for. but when clans come onto a public server and attempt to clan stack, it's whole different story. (BF3 makes this really easy with friends joining system) stacking will NOT happen on the CPC server, sorry, we play for fun, everyone is equal, no one is special.

your support for a-hole admins seems to me like you are one. im sorry, but this is a gaming community, it isn't a singleplayer game. without people to play against, your server is nothing. so man up and don't behave like an a-hole.

Battlefield games is not a war simulation. Battlefield game and its community is like a sports and its communities. in sports, there are rules and sportsmanship.

 

Haha yeah, there's a great post I linked to a while back on reddit which talks about power ratios and choke points. Being stuck in your base is one of the hardest 'choke point' scenarios to overcome on specific maps (e.g. Grand Bazaar) if the enemy has set up a defensive perimeter properly. That's not to say it can't be overcome, it's just that when you've just joined a server where only two of the people on your team have voice-coms and the rest aren't even typing in chat, it's incredibly difficult to organise multiple squads to smash through just one choke point to create an imbalance in the opposing team's defence. Once you can achieve this, you are almost guaranteed to break the spawn-hold as you have a number of unmanned routes to flank from and your squads can start spawning on you. In linear maps like Metro this can have a huge effect, as CPC have demonstrated in joining various Metro servers over the last few weeks

 

It's obviously an unpopular opinion, but I agree with this. Do I particularly like base raping? No. But I feel it's the lesser of two evils, absolutely hate playing in a server and having everyone start crying the moment you step near the enemy base.

BF3's pretty decent and preventing it as well. Combat zones are different for each team so usually the majority of your base isn't even accessible and as for AA it's a seemingly invincible and highly powerful weapon.

It used to be a lot better because the draw time on your weapon when prone was faster (than BF3) and you were more accurate but with the changes in BF3 I don't get it either. The way it is now seems like a good system, it's an effective way to get a little more protection by reducing your profile but not the best reaction for a lot of situations.

I also agree with both of these. I've noted various server as ones not to play on because the clan/admins didn't run them well, it'll be their own fault if they can't get enough players to keep their server up.

I've had any Doorman is God server on a mental blacklist since 2142. Apparently they don't like when you knife Doorman.

 

I think you should subject yourself, along with The_Beast, to being stuck in your base on Grand Bazaar whilst I have my LAV parked outside with four engineers. GL getting out. I have a feeling your opinion would change pretty quick.

 

Been there on both sides of the table, that's how I've formed my opinion. I'd much rather spend a round trapped in my base than get kicked or slain because I killed an admin too close to his spawn. Particularly on Grand Bazaar where there will frequently be legitimate combat in and around each of the bases at any given time in the game. The fun to headache ratio or being baseraped is nothing compared to the drama of server rules and admins.

 

I don't know; I think the way BC2 servers implemented anti-baserape rules were done pretty well. They had scripts which would punish someone spawnraping, but I haven't seen similar (effective) scripts for BF3 servers recently, meaning that often it has to be done manually. I have a feeling you and The_Beast are in the tiny minority of players, as you said it's a very unpopular opinion to hold... so I'll just leave it at that. I'm sure you'll find an empty server where you can baserape freely.

 

Got to disaggree with you there. It's got nothing to do with intelligence, an uneven balance of skill more like. Personally I'm more likely to rape a capture point, than their uncap. You'd have thought people would prefer to be challenged than to butt feck the losing team, but (ahem) oh well.

 

Though the opinion is quite rare to voice in discussion boards it's actually very easy to find servers. I assume I can speak for The_Beast when I say that we both enjoy playing the game as DICE created it (or patched it to be), as such any server without scripts and only the standard options provided is fine. The majority of games don't end up in a baserape scenario anyway. The hardest part is figuring what servers have "hidden rules" where nothing is said in the server title and you have to wait until it pops up in chat.

Of course, I also don't like things such as auto-vehicle spawn, abnormally high ticket counts, and other game-altering changes. Even some auto-balance scripts can be troublesome when trying to play with friends.

I also find it funny how people blindly assume that wanting to play the game without arbitrary rules added on immediately equates to being completely incompetent and doing nothing but attack uncaps.

 

Oh and speaking of raging about base rapers/uneven teams, I look forward to getting back on mumble on the second of feb

 

Getting run over by draca in his tank tonight.... pretty much set up the tone for the rest of the match LOL

 

Joined in for the SQDM fun, nice to play it for a change.

Not impressed with playing Karkand after it though, I think you need to add a server rule that draca isn't allowed near any vehicles, it's basically hacking!

 

Get spawn/base raped sucks, it has happened to me many times. You have to ask yourself, if roles were reserved would I base rape them? If you say no, you're lying to yourself. Anyone in that same situation would. Stat padding =/= base raping

This is stat padding, it's nothing like base raping
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/19562775/4/342017730/


So you don't like to play with friends on pub servers? When I do play on pub server I'll attempt to get as many people on comms as possible onto my team, why you ask? It make the game fun, if I didn't squad up with friends I wouldn't play BF3 half as much as I do, plus it's an easy ace squad ribbon since there's communication.


Thanks for calling me an a-hole, but I'm not an admin. If they are paying money to support a server, they can and should do whatever they want with it, and if pubbers don't like it, then don't have to play their. They will soon gain a reputation of having a-hole admins and will never become popular, it hurts your server image in the long run. I only play on my clan server (which doesn't have a-hole admins) and pub servers that do have active non a-hole admins, that's why I only have 4 favorite servers. Two of my clan servers and two pub servers I've spent at least 15 hours in each.

I know it's an unpopular opinion but it's my opinion. Like I said before I hate it when it happens to me, but I know if roles were reversed I'd be doing the same to them.


See Sloth is proving my point perfectly. He doesn't play on Doorman is God because the admin was an a-hole. That loses traffic to Doorman is God servers, they will probably never become popular and now Doorman is wasting his money on empty servers. In the end being an a-hole is bad value for money when it comes to server population. I honestly just hate being told what I can and cannot do, EA shouldn't be breathing down Doorman neck because he kicks people who knife him, he's paying money for his server.

Nope I'd still have the same opinion, because if I was driving the LAV, I'd be doing the same thing to you. It's just a fact, people will base rape, even if they say they won't. Are you going to stand 100 feet away from there spawn and just stand there while your team racks up kills.

Pretty much, I like stock servers with no rules (like my clan runs), with the exception of Metro conquest. I don't play on those servers very often but when I do I tend to go to "No nade/M320/RPG" servers. It makes life much simpler and longer. Also if you are and admin, please flash the rules or the @rules thingy in the chat, otherwise I'll assume it's a no rules server. Like you Sloth I hate the hidden rules server

 

WRONG. Because, NO, I WOULDN'T. Guess I'm in the minority eh? I think MRDomRocks can attest to my hatred for base rape, hence why I don't jump at the opportunity to do it, as you say so many do.

 

Yeah actually I don't either - I try and sit at the actual flags rather than outside their base.

Hahaha! You don't tend to go on M320/RPG servers yet your top five weapons include the USAS and M320.

:3

 

I'll admit that I have attacked uncaps in the past however most of the time it ruins the game because there are no flags to capture, c4 to use on tanks etc and it takes the fun out of what makes bf games so great to play. I use Metro as my so called guilty pleasure map if I want to get crazy k/d ratios or unlock items quickly.