Other General Battlefield 3 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Otis1337, 8 Feb 2011.

  1. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    I love the AN94 in theory but I hated it at first in practice in BF3. The double-shot burst doesn't work the way it should in reality and that was quiet disappointing after making a special effort to unlock the gun ahead of anything else.
    I've found recently however that with some practice and a different playstyle it can indeed be a beast of a gun. The mistake I made in the past was to use the heavy barrel.

    Honestly, I don't understand why people recommend the HB for the AN94. All it does is serve to make the 2-round burst useless by causing huge separation between the two rounds.
    Sure, your first round is more accurate; but the 2nd flies high into the air; And I find that the accuracy of the first round is already very high without the HB.

    I prefer to use the laser sight with it, since that has only upsides and no downsides; while making the gun more effective in CQB in general.
    According to Symthic, the laser sight decreases hip-fire spread by 33% with no statistical downsides (unlike say, the silencer, which reduces long-range damage).

    It's worth noting that I play hardcore only; where landing both of the bullets from the AN94 burst on-target is probably of greater signifiance than it would be in normal mode.
    Playing hardcore also makes the laser sight doubly appealing, to make up for the loss of on-screen crosshair.

    Info: http://symthic.com/?s=bf3&sb=attach

    In my most recent TDM where I used only the AN94 I had a KDR of 2, 70 kills and accuracy of 21%; while headshots make up about one third of my overall AN94 kills (same as the G3 in that regard for me).
    http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/19721305/1/250978265/
     
  2. CrapBag

    CrapBag Multimodder

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    Damm hackers.......

    Have one last melee ribon to get for the medal and was on track to get it last night then a hacker joined and ruined everything.

    Never thought I'd get one melee ribbon but seem to have found a method to it and they started to come in thick and fast.
     
  3. Zurechial

    Zurechial Elitist

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    Just as an addendum to my previous post..

    From what I've read elsewhere, apparently the heavy barrel's 100% reduction in first-shot spread for the AN94 and G3 (or to put it another way, guaranteed 100% accuracy for the first shot) still applies when moving; allowing those guns to be used on the move in semi-auto fire.
    It now makes more sense to me why people would choose the HB for the G3, but I still don't see the sense in it for the AN94!

    I also tried out the silencer with the AN94 this evening and had some interesting results. It makes the burst grouping much tighter, making both shots land on-target even at long range, which can be very dangerous.
    Since the minimum damage for the AN94 round with silencer is around 14, getting hit with 2 of those at maximum range is like getting hit with one shot worth 28 damage; higher than the max damage of a single AR round at point-blank from anything other than the G3.:eeek:

    The downside, though, is a severe accuracy loss when firing from the hip; enough to outweigh the tighter grouping for me. I'll stick with the laser sight to get a better balance between aiming down the sight and firing from the hip.
    Either way, I've fallen in love with the AN94 again. :D

    Has anyone been using the SCAR-H since it got nerfed? It was the flavour of the month for a while amongst engineers, but I never liked it. It had the damage of the G3, but I found it too inaccurate and slow to be worth using; especially after the damage nerf.
    This evening I tried it with a silencer and found that the combination of the accuracy increase from the silencer and the SCAR's higher base damage makes it perform more like a normal AR in balance; while still retaining those lethal 30-damage point-blank shots.
    I'll probably use it for a while whenever I go engi and see how it plays out over time.

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  4. sotu1

    sotu1 Ex-Modder

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    AN94 Cheesecake :)

    Took some getting used to in BF3 but since adding suppressor it's pretty beastly. Not the best in CQ as other guns fire faster but for accuracy and mid-range it's my baby
     
  5. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Maximum Win

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    im still undecided as to what's better, the G53 or the G36. It feels as tho the 53 has more punch whilst the 36 has a quicker reload.

    hmm

    shame I cant akimbo them both
     
  6. nchhabs

    nchhabs www.twitch.tv/dracaXL

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    What sorcery is this!? ^__^
     
  7. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    No scope Bolt actions Cheesecake. Especially In hardcore mode.

     
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  8. feathers

    feathers Minimodder

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    The ANT animation system is quite amazing to watch.

    Well made vid.
     
  9. feathers

    feathers Minimodder

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    I will be using the BF3 config tool again from today. Incredibly bad luck when I used it some days ago because fecking BF3 servers/Origin chose to f*ckup around the same time I started using it making it look like the util had caused it. Of course later that evening it became clear many people were having the issue because of EA.

    Is anyone else using the FPS cap on the BF3 settings editor? I set a cap of 60.
     
  10. j4mi3

    j4mi3 What's a Dremel?

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    can someone tell me the best way to progress on jets? to unlock more weapons?

    you start off with this awful machine gun, i want rockets and heatseekers etc

    but everyone else is so good you get shot down instantly
     
  11. CrapBag

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    I kept my eye out when playing on servers to see if the other teams pilots were a bit naff and only flew then.

    Also lookout for battles on the ground between vehicles and try and steal the kill by gunning the enemy tank after it's had a few rounds in it, it will be slow progress but it all mounts up.

    Machining gunning a heli can be instant death for the heli and pilots if you get your aim right with the jets machine guns, one long burst and it's down.

    Disabling a vehicle is worth 100 points so don't expect to kill everything, 10 disabled vehicles will give you 1000 points which goes along way towards unlocks.
     
  12. Krazeh

    Krazeh Minimodder

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    Anyone using a joystick with separate throttle for flying? If so how do you have it set up?

    Sent from my Lumia 800 using Board Express
     
  13. feathers

    feathers Minimodder

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    Oh yes. I am.

    Saitek X52 Pro.

    It's easy to setup, you just have to move the throttle and it will be detected when you're in the key bindings section. What I mean is... click on throttle key binding then when it waits for the axis movement, move the throttle.

    However..

    The default deadzone for BF3 is fecking awful. You have to move the stick some distance before it registers. What u need to do is modify a text file the documents folder for BF3. Two parameters need to be edited to get rid of the deadzone. Once done you never need to do it again and the controls are responsive.

    The throttle doesn't work as it does with keys in BF3. There is some control of speed with it but it doesn't slow down the AC like pressing the S does. I have therefore setup one of the buttons on the throttle so when I press and hold it or press it repeatedly it issues the S key press. Thus I can pull 9.5g turns easily.

    If all this sounds complicated... it isn't.
     
  14. Zurechial

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    I'm not the best pilot by a long shot, but I find that I get more kills/disables (against other jets) with the machine-gun.
    You'll still be using the machine-gun after you get rockets and heat-seekers, so you might as well get the practice in now anyway. :)
     
  15. feathers

    feathers Minimodder

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    I've had a few kills with heatseakers when chasing jets.

    Most kills with guns against other jets. Air radar can be useful upgrade but even with just gun u can get lot of kills. Flares can be useful.

    When AAA gets a lock on you, drop down and fly very low hugging hills until your a safe distance away. If you're being followed by a jet then you will be dead unless you turn quickly. I have done pretty well in turning dogfights even before I knew about the S key and adding it to my Throttle control.
     
  16. thefriscokid

    thefriscokid why s**t so crazy?

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    I find the g36c to be the better all round weapon compared to the g53. I find it that is very weak compared to the g36c (i'm sure the stats say otherwise).
     
  17. Bede

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    That bit starting at 2:10 is one of the most powerful things I have seen in a computer game ever. The way his hand moves up to rest on the attacker's hand gives me the shivers.
     
  18. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    The G53 seems to have a bit more recoil but I think it does slightly a bit more damage. The G36C, seems to have a bit less damage but is offset by the low recoil.
     
  19. nchhabs

    nchhabs www.twitch.tv/dracaXL

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    According to the damage charts the guns are almost identical except that the G36C has better bullet velocity and slightly lower reload times. As a result of the higher bullet velocity the G36C has marginally lower TTK (time to kill) values: http://symthic.com/?s=bf3
     
  20. Elton

    Elton Officially a Whisky Nerd

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    Hmm go figure. I don't know but I like using the G53 a tad more. Although I know full well that the G36C is better.

    Regardless I still hog the AS VAL like nothing.
     

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