Other General Battlefield 3 discussion thread

You could be right although there's a lot of discussion over "tj Max" (95C) and "Tcase" (71C) temps and what they mean. Apparently Tcase is measured from the heatspreader and isn't comparable to the temps reported by the motherboard, which are always higher.

Thanks for the tank guides. I've avoided vehicles and aircraft so far but will no doubt give them a try before too long.

 

I have the rest of the evening to myself and I have Guinness. Time for some two-pint-Ramboooo!

(This probably won't end well. )

 

M60+Foregrip+ Laser sight= EPIC DAKKA

 

If only! At the moment I'm stuck between a spud-gun and a pea-shooter. Still, I had some fun with the M320 LVG. We were penned back in the US base on Op Metro and I spent a while firing well-aimed grens down the track in between the train and the tunnel arch. It's a bit like fishing - "plop", reload, wait for the "X" hit indicator. I caught a bag full.

Oh, and you may now call me Le Caporal.

 

Oman is a **** map sadly. No AA except the stationary which is garbage. I never stick around for games where I can't move out of spawn, it's pointless.

 

I know I'm well behind the curve but I've only just got into BF3 so please humour me.

What a difference a heavy barrel makes! With the 4x scope (ACOG?) and a heavy barrel my Aug A3 has transformed into a widow-making death-bringer. *war face*

 

Blimey, the F2000 doesn't mess about at close range and in semi auto it even managed to give the snipers in the Metro Russian base a hard time from the distant building, with iron sights.

 

Bah, try the AEK and the AN94.

The AEK has the same damage output as the F2000, but better accuracy once you've mastered it.

The AN94 has the highest damage per second of any gun in the game, provided you can control it it's a better sniping weapon than the sniper rifles, whilst at close range enemies just sort of... melt.

 

Ah, cheers. I'm pretty sure I have the AEK but haven't tried it yet. I'll have to give it a whirl.

No AN94 yet but it shouldn't take too long.

What's your opinion on upgrades? Do you stick a heavy barrel on every assault weapon?

What about foregrip - is best just for close range?

 

Foregrip is 50/50, it reduces side recoil, and adds aimed accuracy penalty. Heavy Barrel is a goto, suppressor is useful on certain weapons only. AS VAL is better than AN94.

 

http://symthic.com/bf3-weapon-comparison

Check out the stats and what the attachments do on Symthic, it's brilliant.

But the most accurate setup is heavy barrel on everything, fore grip on everything but the AN94 and G3. Those last two basically go exactly where they're pointed at all times, so the increased spread of the fore grip makes them worse.

On the others the fore grip increases spread (which the HB reduces) but also reduces the recoil (which the HB increases) and reduces the spread increase from full auto fire, so your overall spread is better vs heavy barrel without the fore grip.

Once you've got the timing down you can fire the AN94 at well over 1000rpm with laser accuracy, but it's much harder to master than the AEK or M16a3.

 

That's good info, and a very useful tool for comparing weapon/attachment stats. Just what I need, thanks.

+rep to you both.

 

I was tired last night so here is the foregrip theory, and I already linked the Symthic site.

My loadout for copy: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/JamJester/loadout/363545879/pc/

BF3 shooting mechanics are more interesting than most games I've played, The thing that isn't clearly visible in the stats pages is how to maximise each weapons potential. Foregrip is good for two situations, it benefits bursting characteristics allowing longer bursts, it always benefits hipfire. Foregip is bad for longrange tap fire, good for close-medium range sustained fire, (5-10 shots).

For example ACW-R is a bad candidate for foregrip, it's a long range carbine best suitated to tap-fire 1/2 shots at a time or micro bursts; It still bursts well at closer ranges but w/o headshots it's a consisten 5/6 shot kill.

One last point, if you run HB w/o Foregrip you need to make your first shot count - that's the whole benefit of doing it like that; In most cases, you'll want to micro-burst these setups, 2, 3 or 4 rounds at a time.

 

Yea, that makes sense, thanks.

I've been playing this a bit too much lately and have unlocked a few more "stuffs" (Gunnery Sgt now *points at stripes* ). I have t say, I think I like them all! F2000 with FG & HB is great fun - the FG & HB really calm it down nicely for those longer bursts at close/med range. Same with the Aug a3 - the FG & HB really allow you to nail medium range targets with precision bursts (have the holo sight for the Aug too which I like a lot). I like the AN's 2-round burst too but haven't really had much time with it yet.

Surprisingly, I'm also enjoying one of the semi-auto sniper rifles - the QBU-88. It's great for when I just want to hang back a little further and take people out relatively invisibly with the glareless 4x scope (working towards the FG & suppressor to help with this). O, and I somehow managed to bag a 750m headshot with the SV98 & 12x scope too.

All's not perfect though - I lose far too many short range battles for my liking because of my rusty skills and being surprised due to not being familiar with my surroundings. High ranking lone-wolves have sneaked up and nicked my dog-tags a few times too.

Edit: I've also discovered that M320 spamming is a "thing" so I'm now consciously trying to avoid using the LVG. It's too bliddy tempting though and my accuracy is pretty good with it (36%). Still, it was beginning to take over my game so I must resist. Using it too much will hold back my unlock progression - I don't want to end up a Colonel with nothing to show for it but a worn-out M320.

 

Anyone know what the score is with the M16A4? I have the A3 version but despite reading on the web about the A4 being available in BF3 (after 89k infantry points?), I can't see it anywhere in-game (despite having ~240k infantry points). Has it been removed in an update or am I missing something very obvious? (quite likely.)

Thanks.

 

It's there still. I wouldn't use it though, also it isn't separated in the stats engine from the A3.

 

How do you get it?

I read that it had better spread stats than the A3 making it more accurate for longer ranges, and IIRC a burst mode option (though I may be mistaken on that).

 

A4 is burst and maybe single only. It's in the Assault weapon group.

 

Thanks. I've checked and double-checked my profile/weapons tab in Battlelog (next to "overview"), filtered for "assault kits" and it isn't there. Am I looking in the right place?

 

M16A3, full auto, single shot.

M16A4, Three round burst, single.

The A4 is marginally more accurate than the A3, but you have to contend with the first round recoil more often (which increases scope jump) and the practical fire rate is lower, you do less damage at all ranges. So nobody uses the A4.

TBH all the burst firing weapons except the AN94 perform poorly compared to their full auto equivalent. The way Battlefield's recoil works makes them less accurate unless you fire very slowly, then the extra accuracy is only useful at ranges where you should be using a sniper rifle anyway.