Rant Get rid of pregnant women handicap sign parking

Since when did society lose its courtecy? People not getting up for pregnant women? Complaining they get their own special spaces? Christ man! All the senseless moaners remind me of 50 year olds reminicing about their wasted youth spent in t'mines, GROW A PAIR, shut up and open that door for a struggling woman. You are letting the side down, and convincing other people across the globe that men have indeed turned into half women who consistently moan and piss about nothing relivent to important social problems.

It smacks of selfish ass grabbing which does nothing usefull. society is NOT about the individual, its about others, its the problem causing the beakdown of communities. It starts with selfish pricks who can't see infront of their own noses, complaining like half/men-women who believe that they should be gratified before people with geniune alments, choices in procreation (which is a beautiful and fantastic thing to happen to a person) or illness.

save your whining for people who need positive change in their lives, fatties, chavs and other people who just cant cope in a modern, multicultured, change accepting society.

 

It's really funny to read all this... You are being called the scum of the universe just because some don't agree that pregnant woman deserve a privileged parking space... It's just a parking space for christ sake!

IMHO if you are in such a terrible condition that you can't walk 30m from the parking lot to the entrance, how can you walk hundreds of meters while shopping? I had a good laugh at all the theories about the heat and such...

And don't go telling me that pregnant woman have a hard time. I suffer from a (born) deviation from my back. At some days sitting upright is a burden. I can't remember a single day that I didn't have a pain in my lower back since I was 13. Couple that with a injured kneecap & Achilles heel from an accident and you lose quite some mobility. It hurts like hell to walk a lot, but do I deserve a privileged parking space? No I don't. I choose not to get my back treated (ok, 95% chance of ending up in a wheelchair is pretty convincing) and I accept the consequences of my choice. Women choose to get pregnant (rape victims still choose to keep it or not), and with choice comes consequences. Someone who loses a leg in an accident didn't choose for it. They deserve a privileged parking space.

Now all start telling me I'm anti social! Being social isn't about making a privileged parking space for a pregnant woman. It's about being polite to others. I let people who have only a couple of things go in front at the cash register, I help people when I can, I care for others,... I just don't think someone should get a privilege for being pregnant.

 

Wait.. What?

Did I slip into an alternate universe where common courtesy has never existed? (It'd not be uncommon, I seem to have slipped into a universe where common sense is not a requirement for driving)

I was under the impression that being disabled was described by something akin to "To deprive of capability or effectiveness, especially to impair the physical abilities of."

Last I checked being pregnant does, in the best case scenario, impair the physical ablities of the human body, because it's redirecting everything to that kid that's growing in the womb.

Has no one ever heard the phrase 'eating for two'? Eating for two because the pregnant person is essentially powering TWO people.

Maybe you should try, just for a bit of a laugh (On my part) getting some bricks (They should emulate the discomfort and weight quite well) strapped to your stomach/lower abdomen, eat less to simulate the lack of nutrition getting to you and drink a lot more to simulate the weakened bladder (Remember, the baby is dumping all the crap it doesn't want into your system). You'd probably want to park as close to the store as possible.

Though, why you'd want to go shopping at all like that is beyond me, but hey. Some (read: Most) pregnant women have more balls than most of you whiney little buggers "omgtehnoez I can't be as lazy as possible".

 

You're right, let's keep perspective. So what we have here then, is generally young fit males getting their knickers in a twist because they have to walk fifty yards more from the parking lot than pregnant women have to. Oh, the humanity.

This is not about whether it is right or wrong to give pregnant women special parking access. This is about whining gits picking on pregnant women about parking privileges, FFS. I mean, get some stones. Really.

Now I'm not exactly sentimental about pregnancy. I do not refer to it as a gift from God, or a blessing or precious load. I am pro-choice (in as far as me being male, I get to have an opinion at all). But I think that being a capable human being, I have a certain responsibility to be considerate towards people who are less capable. Cornerstone of a civilised society and all that. I don't get wound up about pregnant women having to walk less far than I do. I'd be too embarrassed to feel that way.

 

I fully agree. I am considerate to people who are less capable. But IMHO a pregnant woman isn't that much less capable that they deserve parking privileges. It's not about me having to walk 30m, it's about someone who is really disabled having to walk 30m... I'd rather have those places for real disabled people.

 

I don't think we're arguing about whether disabled people should have access bays here and I quite disagree with you anyway. As Nexxo said:

And whether you like it or not, a pregnant woman who has to go shopping is one of those people. Having said that: Ocado sounds like a great idea for them right now with the amount of anti-social people posting on this thread

Me too

 

Agreed. And even when they are that much more incapable, they chose to become pregnant. If they can't deal with the consequences that's their own damn fault. Disabled people shouldn't be disadvantaged by legions of pregnant women making use of extra large parking bays from day one of inception.

 

I doubt anyones suggesting taking disabled spaces 4 pregnancy spaces, the addition of 4 pregnancy spaces would mean the loss of 2 normal spaces so whats big deal. In fact I suggest making ALL disabled/ M&T's to include pregnant ladies. At least then people can ask "Are you pregnant youngman?" -

 

Why don't we ask the disabled for their opinion? The few truly disabled people in this thread don't seem to have an issue. All I see is sanctimonious whining from perfectly fit, young males.

A woman once suggested that men do not really get to have an opinion about abortion because it is not them who get pregnant. I sort of agree. Perhaps able males should not get to have an opinion on this issue either.

 

Well Nexxo, I'm still eligable for disability status, even though I don't take it. Certainly it'd be insulting for me to do so these days, but a few years back a walk around the supermarket would have been fairly painfull for me, and I fairly constantly had a lot of pain in my legs which got worse the more I used them. So go ahead and add my 2p to the disabled person opinion if it'll make you value it more.

 

i was going to post in thread but its sort of left me at a losss for words. does common sense (not to mention common curtesey) not exist anymore they are less able than you so you have to walk an extra fifty or so yards to pick up your super large bottle of coke and bag of chocolates so that your ready for you all night gaming session big deal...

whats the expression I'm looking for? Oh yeah thats it

get a frigging life and grow up.

sorry but this thread has seriously kind of annoyed me. I didn't realise that people with such stupid and pathetic attitudes still existed

as for the disabled vote I'm not sure if i get the right to exercise it or not normally I'm fairly able-bodied but at present I'm having to use a cane ocassionally as I have a trapped nerve in my back.

 

Perhaps most pregnant women think the same, you know? Perhaps they won't use the space unless they really feel they need it. Perhaps other people can be reasonable about these things. But I suspect that the complainers are projecting... unreasonable people expect others to be unreasonable.

 

Yes, but no-one choses to be disabled. People do choose to be pregnant. I'm not saying that there should be no courtersey. I do think it'd be good if there were dedicated pregnant women bays in car parks. But I don't think they should be the same as, or at the expense of, ones for disabled people.

 

Perhaps pregnant women can be courteous too, and only use those places when they really need it.

Whether pregnancy is chosen or not is a moot point. Disabled people choose whether they access disability services.

People choose to live. People choose to procreate. At some point we just have to accept that the human condition is unavoidable when you are human, and get on with it and get on with each other.

 

The choice thing can be carried to the extreme. What about someone who plays sports, ends up with some injury and has limitations? They chose to play sports, didn't they? And what about "elective" surgery, say something that may be recommended but not absolutely necessary. Even an auto accident might fit the bill here -- whether or not the person was at fault, they still chose to get in the car when they could have taken public transportation.

There will always be the people who are lazy and hate the inconvenience of an additional few yards away from the door. They'll rationalize such behavior with "I'm in a hurry" or "I just need milk" or something else that fits for them. To heck with everyone else! As my mother often said (rest her soul): You cannot change other people's behavior. You can only change your own. Smart woman I think.

 

i have to agree with the person that has been in the situation before (pregnancy).

indeed she was.

BTW i think you, Nexxo, should change your disabled pool to pregnant pool... only they know what a pregnant woman feels when they have to go buy stuff and no one can help them..... and this thread is about them.

 

Wow, this thread is possibly the most depressin thing I've seen in a long while. It actually gives me a worse view of society than whoever took it upon themselves to smash my car windscreen the other day, at least i can probably put that down to alcohol.

It all just common sense and being nice to one another. One would hope that any store would have enough spaces for disabled AND pregnant people to ensure that anyone who chose to use them would be able to. People can always be more considerate, however much they are at the moment.

One thing that does annoy me hugely is anyone who deffinately shouldn't be in those spaces using them. Even down to the women (it's sterotyping but i tend to find it's the case) who park in the child bays, then leave their children in the car? Did they miss the point of these? Surely they of all people should know better.

Or the people who use two spaces as they cannot be bothered to park properly. I will happily walk several hundred yards if spaces are taken by anyone parking properly, however many disabled spaces are in use, i object ot having to do it because someone couldn't be bothered to move their car from the 45 degree angle it ended up on.

As to the OP, many pregnant women do HAVE to go to the shops themselves. Despite only being 20, I have at least three people i would consider friends who have been or are pregnant and single. What do you propose they do? You can't order everything online, what if you need a pint of milk etc? (If you say "better organisation", imagine they dropped the bottle... etc) If it makes thing easier for them, then surely that's a good thing? As we're all adults and kind to others, so surely making things easier for someone else is a good thing?

*sigh*

RwD

 

I dunno if some people in this thread are just talking crap just to piss people off, or if they really think that way Either way, picking on pregnant women is not cool, it's sad, disgracefull, and some of the comments in this thread do nothing but disgrace the website. To these few sad people, would you say these things if it was your pregnant friend? or your woman with your child in there? Maybe you guys are so low that your answer will be yes I'll stop now before i start flaming, but i'm tempted to start just to get this thread closed

 

My problem is going to Ikea and seeing a pregnant woman/woman with stroller sign on the ground, but no sign of a handicapped spot. You're telling me a normally able-bodied person burdened by some 20-30 extra pounds gets a spot over a person who spends 5 minutes just getting out of the car and into their wheelchair? That is sad, pregnant woman should definitely not receive treatment over a handicapped person. Next we will have obesity spots. Catering to people is ridiculous. The solution to lifes little problems is this: get up, put down the fork, stop complaining.

 

As we don't have an ikea within 160 miles I'll have to take your word for it that Ikea are so frackin ignorant to not have disabled bays. Trust me they will suffer grief if its as you claim! However if its down to your lack of observation then I shall no doubt enjoy the Ikea experience (funny how 160 miles seems so far )..

A lot of people challenged over parking in reserved spaces say "Sorry - didn't notice" FFS if your to unobservant to notice them then you ain't fit to drive"