Overclocking going from 4Ghz to 4.2Ghz help

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  1. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    So i got 4Ghz stable on OCCT with TM and HT on
    Max temp 75c air cooled by Titan Fenrir which im happy with.

    im using the current BIOS settings for 4Ghz:

    Ai Overclock Tuner - Manual
    CPU Ratio Setting - Auto
    Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech - Enabled
    Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech - Enabled
    BCLK Frequency - 190
    PCIE Fequency - 100
    DRAM Frequency - DDR3 - 1523MHz

    DRAM CAS# Latency - 8 DRAM Clock
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay - 8 DRAM Clock
    DRAM RAS# PRE Time - 8 DRAM Clock
    DRAM RAS# ACT Time - 24 DRAM Clock

    CPU Voltage - 1.30000v
    CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
    QPI/DRAM Core Voltage - 1.3v
    IOH Voltage - Auto
    IOH PCIE Voltage - Auto
    ICH Voltage - Auto
    ICH Voltage - Auto

    DRAM Bus Voltage - 1.64v
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA - Auto
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA - Auto
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB - Auto
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB - Auto
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC - Auto
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC - Auto

    Load-Line Calibration - Enabled
    CPU Differential Amplitude - Auto
    CPU Clock Skew - Auto
    CPU Spread Spectrum - Auto
    IOH Clock Skew - Auto
    PCIE Spread Spectrum - Auto

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    Now i would like to try and get 4.2Ghz so that i can get back to 1600Mhz RAM speed and reach the air cooled limit of my chip.
    I keep all the current settings but up the BCLK to 200 so make 4.2ghz on TM, but into the first 5 minit of testing i get the blue screen of death, any idea's? maybe 1.3500v?:dremel:
     
  2. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    how do you know 4.2Ghz is the air cooled limit of your chip? if you already know that's your limit, then surely you'll already know the required voltages. other people's limit doesn't mean it's your chip's, every chip is different.

    try tweak the PLL voltage, something like from 1.8v to 1.9v, and also up the CPU voltage, but keep an eye on the temperatures during load.
     
  3. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    just meant that's the average safe limit people have been getting on air that's all

    also iv never moved the PLL voltage, but i know some people have to up it a little for 4Ghz+, what does it do? i just wont to know what im doing to my chip and not just jump in.
    thanks for the reply!

    from a quick google:
    "CPU PLL voltage (phase locked loop - a feedback control system that automatically adjusts the phase of a locally generated signal to match the phase of an input signal). This voltage used to be very important for successful overclocking of quad-core LGA775 processors, and is still important for overclocking Core i7. The nominal setting for this voltage is 1.8V, but Intel allows increasing it up to 1.88V without any risks for the processor."

    ill give 1.88 a try

    Edit: back, still blue screen on stress test but can boot into it fine...
     
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  4. Pete J

    Pete J Employed scum

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    Remember that your CPU may not be capable of 4.2GHz!

    Temporarily back off your memory timings to 9-9-9-24 whilst attempting to reach a new CPU speed.

    Try upping your QPI/DRAM Core Voltage to 1.45V (you may need higher but above 1.45 is 'danger' territory).

    Also, you need to set your IOH/ICH voltages. I can't remember my settings at the moment (I'm at work :worried: ) but I think they're at 1.25V

    Finally, you may have to up your CPU voltage - I can run mine at 1.3V but it's more stable at 1.325V. Some people need 1.45+V. The problem is that your temps are at a maximum 'acceptable' level and further overclocking WILL raise it - anything above 85C is a bit too hot.
     
  5. rollo

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    Be happy at 4ghz the extra 200 MHz will do nothing
     
  6. Pete J

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    ^There is that!
     
  7. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    i am happy with 4Ghz, its just i dont wont to have to de-clock my ram to get it, due to the ratio, it must be at X.2Ghz to enable me to use my ram at its stock 1600Mhz.

    thanks for the reply's
     
  8. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    how about lower your CPU multi to get that magic 200Mhz Bclk and 1600Mhz RAM?

    general average of other people on the internet means nothing, your chip is not the same as other people's, some i7 920 D0 can't even do 3.6Ghz easily, while some does 4.4Ghz without a problem.

    what are your load temperatures at 4Ghz?
     
  9. smc8788

    smc8788 Multimodder

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    1600MHz isn't its 'stock' speed though. It's just the maximum speed the RAM manufacturer has said it's safe to run at. You might get more if you're lucky, but you wouldn't see any difference from running it at a lower frequency anyway.

    Have you tried changing the multi to 20 so a 200MHz base clock will still give you 4GHz? --- EDIT: ninja'd :(
     
  10. Pete J

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    From personal experience, the BCLK is the limiting factor. The CPU would be just as unstable with a 200MHz BCLK and a 20x multiplier as with a 21x multiplier.
     
  11. saspro

    saspro IT monkey

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    I'm running my 920's at 4GHz with 200BCLK & the RAM at 1600MHz.

    There's a guide on the bit-tech site
     
  12. barndoor101

    barndoor101 Bring back the demote thread!

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    with 12gb of RAM as you have then yes there are problems with a high BLCK, however the OP has 6gb and a P6T SE - which I can confirm goes to a 200mhz BLCK with no trouble.
     
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    I can do 200BCLK on a P6T-SE with 12GB RAM no problems (been running at 100% load for 3-4 months so far)
     
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    barndoor101 Bring back the demote thread!

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    thats actually good to know. i have heard about problems with OCing with 12gb RAM but i cant recall which motherboards they are.
     
  15. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    ill turn TM off then, bump it to 200 and give it a go.

    @wuyanxu im getting 75c full load on core 1-2 and 70c on core 3-4
     
  16. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    at 4Ghz you are at that temperature, then i personally think it's time to call enough is enough.
     
  17. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    mmm, my case does not provide great airflow, cant afford to get a new one and this one is still just under a year old, but 75c isnt to bad, would never get that high in normal use.
     
  18. llamafur

    llamafur WaterCooled fool

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    Just keep it where it is and be happy you don't have a sempron.:worried:
     
  19. Otis1337

    Otis1337 aka - Ripp3r

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    back with a new clock for 4Ghz and with RAM speed back to 1600mhz instead of 1500Mhz.

    im now running settings of:

    Ai Overclock Tuner - Manual
    CPU Ratio Setting - Auto
    Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech - Disabled
    Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech - Disabled
    BCLK Frequency - 200
    PCIE Fequency - 100
    DRAM Frequency - DDR3 - 1600MHz

    DRAM CAS# Latency - 8 DRAM Clock
    DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay - 8 DRAM Clock
    DRAM RAS# PRE Time - 8 DRAM Clock
    DRAM RAS# ACT Time - 24 DRAM Clock

    CPU Voltage - 1.32500v
    CPU PLL Voltage - Auto
    QPI/DRAM Core Voltage - 1.25v
    IOH Voltage - Auto
    IOH PCIE Voltage - Auto
    ICH Voltage - Auto
    ICH Voltage - Auto

    DRAM Bus Voltage - 1.64v
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA - Auto
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA - Auto
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB - Auto
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB - Auto
    DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC - Auto
    DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC - Auto

    Load-Line Calibration - Enabled
    CPU Differential Amplitude - Auto
    CPU Clock Skew - Auto
    CPU Spread Spectrum - Auto
    IOH Clock Skew - Auto
    PCIE Spread Spectrum - Auto

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    With them settings i could drop the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage to 1.25v from 1.30v which is always nice.
    But to get stable on Prime95/IntelburnTest with the new BCLK-200 i needed 1.325 CoreV, which isn't to bad but still a little high for a D0, but no chip is the same is it.
    Also PPL voltage didnt need moving from stock :thumb:
     
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