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  1. CandyMan

    CandyMan What's a Dremel?

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  2. SPQQKY

    SPQQKY Evil Modder

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    I would make time to build one. At that price, you could do much better. It really doesn't take long to do once you have all the components. The Raptors are a waste, there is no OS on there and if you upgrade to 4GB, it's 4 x 1GB sticks, which can be problematic. They even state the 4GB upgrade causes them to reduce the overclock they are setting. It doesn't say what monitor it actually comes with. The blue ray drive is a waste......build your own, you'll be much happier and have more cabbage in your bank when you're done.
     
  3. Gorgon777

    Gorgon777 What's a Dremel?

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    Ya...you should make time to build one. 1k psu is kind of overkill, and blue ray drive is kind of useless at this point unless you have an awesome monitor. You can prolly make this pc with same ram, cpu, mobo, graphics card @ around 900
     
  4. ryanjleng

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    Get the exact motherboard, RAM and probably CPU.

    The system looked and feel like it has been well tested. They chose those Micron RAM and that specific board because it's probably a good OC combo.

    The philosophy behind using the Raptor is the last 2-5% bump in loading time.

    There's a psychological factor with speed and how our brains work. It's like driving to the market down the road.. any longer than usually drive us mad with neurons firing left and right.

    your brain remembers how long it takes to do a particular job (eg. loading Crysis) when you do it for the 1st few times. Everything is than referenced off that.

    So if your new PC uses a standard cheap 7200 from day 1, you won't feel it's slow.

    Once you got a Raptor RAID-1 config, you will feel someone else PC with 7200rpm HDD to be slow.

    I use SCSI HDDs for a server and paid a lot for it. It's fast. It does that job well and reliable. Raptor RAID-0 is fast and reliable but cheaper than SCSI. It exist for a reason.

    IMHO, it may not be your cup of tea if you're gaming.

    The money may be better spent in getting the fastest GPU.

    standard HDD prices may be dropping in late Q1.
     
  5. Ending Credits

    Ending Credits Bunned

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    As much as I love them, Raptors simply don't cut it for that price and that size any more.
     
  6. CandyMan

    CandyMan What's a Dremel?

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    Could you possibly build me a pc on a site for pricing. Because if i could get a pc close to this for 900 or cheaper and have my buddy build it for me. I could do that but im not all sure whats the stuff to get for what i would use it for i mainly just do gaming. So could you help me out with a list of stuff ill need to get this going. Thanks
     
  7. CandyMan

    CandyMan What's a Dremel?

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    DESCRIPTION QTY AVAILABILITY UNIT PRICE TOTAL

    TSD-500AS2 :: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, Serial ATA-300, OEM (1 lbs)
    In Stock $119.99 $119.99

    C19-6012 :: Crucial Ballistix Dual Channel 2048MB PC8500 DDR2 1066MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB) (0.25 lbs)
    In Stock $113.99 $113.99

    O261-2005 :: OCZ / GameXStream / 700-Watt / ATX / 120mm Fan / SATA Ready / SLI Ready / EPS / Active PFC / Power Supply (5 lbs)
    In Stock $129.99 $129.99

    E145-8000 :: EVGA GeForce 8800 GTX Video Card - 768MB GDDR3, PCI Express, SLI Ready, Dual DVI, HDTV, Video Card (2.95 lbs)
    In Stock $479.99 $479.99

    P725-3058 :: Pioneer DVR-212BK OEM DVD Burner - 18x DVD�R Burn, 16x DVD�R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 10x DVD�R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, SATA with Software (2.65 lbs)
    In Stock $39.99 $39.99

    O261-7404 :: OCZ / Vindicator / Socket 754/939/940/AM2/775 / Copper Core / CPU Cooler (2.15 lbs)
    In Stock $39.99 $39.99

    CP2-DUO-Q6600 :: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Processor HH80562PH0568M - 2.40GHz, 8MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB, Kentsfield, Quad-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor (0.1 lbs)
    In Stock $259.99 $259.99

    A458-1180 :: Abit IP35 Pro Motherboard - Intel P35, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express, Dual Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, eSATA, RAID (4.3 lbs)
    In Stock $189.99 $189.99


    SUBTOTAL: $1373.92

    S&H Enter a Zip Code

    TOTAL

    Did I forget anything? And Does it look good so far?
     
  8. Hazardous

    Hazardous What's a Dremel?

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    Where are you from CandyMan?

    Only... you wereconsidering a system from OcUK, yet you've listed all those component prices in dollars - which would suggest you're from the USA, Canada, Australia etc?

    If you;re from the UK... why list prices in $? If you're from abroad... why consider buying a system from a UK supplier :confused:
     
  9. lamboman

    lamboman What's a Dremel?

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    +1 for confusion.
     
  10. DaveVader

    DaveVader Fast Action Response Team

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    I second that

    as for the system though

    GTX is overkill unless using a really large resolution. The PSU isn't needed either, too high a power
     
  11. Cupboard

    Cupboard I'm not a modder.

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    Or Crysis. :D

    Though TBH, if he has the money there is not much reason not to go for the GTX, it will provide a better experience now than a GT, and will last a little longer.
     
  12. DaveVader

    DaveVader Fast Action Response Team

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    From looking at all of the reviews etc. on Bit-Tech the G92 chip in the 512 GTS makes that card generally the best. The GTX, as I said, beat it at high resolutions but a lot of the time the GTS gave better performance. It is only £200+ making it a lot less than a GTX and so better value than the GTX
    thats my 2cents anyway.
     
  13. CandyMan

    CandyMan What's a Dremel?

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    Im in the U.S but im not able to find a already over clocked system ready to go in the united states so i found overclockers.com and liked what i saw. Ive emailed them and they do ship to the united states. Really i dont care where i get the system from im still paying money i wont see again so really i dont care wheres its coming from as long as i get what i want.
     
  14. DaveVader

    DaveVader Fast Action Response Team

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    ah fair enough, my mistake.
     
  15. Steelez

    Steelez Minimodder

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    In the UK PC components tend to cost a premium compared to prices in the US, if you shop around you'd definately find it priced better domestically.
     
  16. Hazardous

    Hazardous What's a Dremel?

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    The very best option, when you can't build a system yourself (it's really not that hard!), would be to buy the components you want for the system, then have a friend build it for you - even if it means paying them a fee?
    That way... it's you who dictates exactly what'll be in the system, and you don't have to settle for the standard [often inferior] components included in most pre-built systems.

    However... if you're set on buying a pre-build... consider these two, rather than the one you looked at earlier:

    Wahoo - "Custom High Performance Computer Systems" - built to your specification...

    [​IMG]


    iBuyPower systems :idea:
     
  17. CandyMan

    CandyMan What's a Dremel?

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    I have a friend that can build one. Who worked at gateway for 8 yeaars building pc's but i dont think he knows how to overclock a system well he might i guess i never asked, but if he dont i really would like a overclocked system or should i not worry about overclocking?
     
  18. mrb_no1

    mrb_no1 Pie Eater

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    for someone who doesnt know how to overclock, try the system once its built and if you find yourself still wanting, probably wont be the case, then look into overclocking. Its not partiularly difficult to see results straight away, its when you try and squeeze everything out of your system it can take alot of time, effort and tweaking with voltages etc etc to make things stable, at which point cooling is also fundamental. As always, imho ofcourse.

    As your system will probably be quick enough, just use it for 6 months or longer, then when some new game comes out that maybe pushes further than crysis, look into oc'ing so that your system still works brilliantly with the software.

    peace
     
  19. lamboman

    lamboman What's a Dremel?

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    I must say that I have never seen a review or heard of Wahoo systems before. If you have a large amount of money and you really want a pre built, overclocked system, you should consult AVA Direct, they have great service. I have not heard of many non-overclocking companies, so I really don't know where you have been looking lol.

    Otherwise, consider getting a friend or someone to build for you, provided they can do the job properly. Then overclock yourself, there are plenty of guides out there.

    EDIT: Brainwave, I have heard of Wahoo before lol. Still, AVA Direct is the way to go.
     
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