I find that if I race 'properly' on GRID, following lines, braking carefully, turning smoothly and overtaking without crushing bumpers, I never end up higher than 8th in a race. If, however, I approach corners way too fast, slam the brakes on too hard, skid round corners, cut across S-bends and U-turns, smash other cars out of the way and so on, I win every time. Thing is, I feel like I'm exploiting holes in the game design, rather than actually playing it with skill. So why does the game (and every racing game I've ever played, now I think about it) reward this style of play, when in real life you'd be disqualified for it? Why do the AI take corners like old ladies, when I can slide around them sideways without spinning out? Should I be playing on the harder difficulty setting, or should I just stop driving like a maniac and respect the rules of racing for no evident reason other than digital chivalry?
on pro street i found i had to drive preety carfully and pick out the best lines other wise you can damage your car very easily. and any way you are ment to be going as fast as you can and breaking as late as you can then you can make up serious time with the components
welcome to the reason why proper racers dont play grid. its an amusing silly racing game to play when drunk but its pathetic online community makes its a pain in the arse to take seriously. as a petrol head myself whose been on the recieving end of it i can say its really who you play with that make a great race. there are comunities out there who focus on the drive itself as opposed to the result. may i reccomend that you pick up a copy of something like GTR2 or GTR EVO, the steep learning curve turns a lot of idiots off making racing with like minded folk more common place. theres a few people here who also feel the same way as you so im sure we can all get together one night for some proper driving
it really depends on what sort of experience you want. an arcadey yet feels realistic enough experience, go for Grid and play like you described. if you want real racing experience go for GTR as Gunsmith said
its surprising to see anyone drive properly on GRID most people will smash you off the road as soon as they can
I feel the same way, i'm not looking for a true sim racing game but i like a challenge.... GRID feels arcade. Toca Race Driver 3 was way better.
may i reccomend DiRT, its a nice balance of the two ive found. heres hoping DiRT 2 wont be trashed pleasing the idiot masses.
I for one hated dirt. For hardcore racing sims, i suppose GTR is a good call. Lots more serious driving games on the consoles, though. Back to your original question, though: I have finished races in 3rd or better without touching anyone. It's a matter of finding the exact limits of the car's abilities and knowing the track extremely well. Especially in the LeMans races. Please note that that was on the '360 though... don't know what peripherals you use on the PC, but if it's a keyboard i can imagine throttle feathering being almost impossible.
utter bollocks! live for speed gtr gtr evo gtr 2 grand prix legends gt legends toca rd2 toca rd3 r-factor colin mcrae rally 2005 shall i stop now or carry on typing out the shelf behind me?
yeah, the car's limit is the key. how far can you go before hitting the breaks when approaching a conner, how much throttle can you apply without oversteer the car. my fav Grid cars are Skyline and DB9 in GT1. those two are the most forgiving car in the game (basically a bit less arcade than NFS cars)
Sorry. Should've maybe said "More readily available/new games". Some of the ones you mentioned are pretty old. I am assuming here that most people don't actually want to play some of the really hardcore ones, ergo, Forza series, Gran Tourismo series should fit the bill just fine... Maybe some Race Pro. Not 100% Hardcore, but hardcore enough for most people
I found that I couldn't really play GTR Evo untill I got my G25. I tried with keyboard...hopeless, tried with my 360 controller.....only marignally better. Got my G25, and a little bit of practice in the Minis to start off with, then Caterhams, I was getting much better, still not perfect, but better. I also find that I can't play for too long, as I just use my desk, the pedals are in the wrong place proportional to the wheel, and so my ankles ache after about 30mins to an hour driving. And if I take the G25 downstairs on the PS2 for GT4, my back is killing me for days, after being squatted over the wheel, on a table thats too small to fit my knees under properly. To get the most satisfying driving, I'm sure you need a proper setup, with a good chair, preferably a Playseat, but then its getting very expensive. I still need to try and sort out a better setup for my G25 as its not being used anywhere near as much as it should. But then I think, should I spend anymore money, as what I really want to do is race/drive a real performance car, not neccesarilly anything really fast and exotic, hell, I'd be happy with a little fiesta 1.25 like I had as my first car, if I had a track to drive it around. Sorry for the long post,
