It does seem kinda pathetic that there is a state ban on drinking while on stage. . . I'm sure every band member is of legal age to drink, and who hasn't heard the saying "sex, drugs, and rock & roll." Canceling a concert does seem like a bit of an extreme action; on the other hand, protesting the not-so-good law is good. Speaking of GnR, is their new material anywhere near as good as their prime back in the 80's? I had always thought that GnR was dead 'cause Axl Rose took too much time trying to perfect every track and could not release schedules (I have no idea where I heard that. . .); thus, the old members left and formed Velvet Revolver. L J
There are many emotional songs in the album.But the old GnR were definately better.I would sell my pc to see Slash and Axl together again. And about velver revolver,no point looking at them,Scott's the biggest *** ever.
I think you have to consider the effect such alcohol consumption-promoting behaviour will have on their attending fan base (a proportion of which may be under the drinking age). Hey, our idols drink, so it is cool to join in... Do you really want a concert hall full of psyched-up, pissed-up people packed closely together? No alcohol dependency issues there, then. A shining example for our youth.
To be honest, that's what most gigs are like now anyway, regardless of whether the act drinks on stage or not. However I must agree that their apparent dependancy on alcohol just presents a terrible image to their younger fans and just makes them look like a beacon of success for alchoholism. <A88>
I see your point and I think it is a decent point. However, I feel that nearly every band does at least drink or do other drugs and because of that I don't really feel that their drinking on stage is a big problem. I simply feel that bands drinking on stage is something we should be accustomed to. L J
You are right that it is no big deal, really. But it seems that the band is making it a big deal. The idea of banning alcohol consumption in a work environment with heavy equipment (which a stage is) is not unreasonable. Now Guns 'n Roses could have just shrugged and performed without alcohol (after all, it's no biggie), but instead they are kicking up a fuss and suggesting that they couldn't possibly function (as well) without the consumption of alcohol. That is kind of a worrying message.
To be blunt... Why hell yeah! The best concerts I have ever been to I was totally smashed and in massive crowds of like minded people. Enjoying a good buzz while listening to a good band and rocking out completely is one of the best feelings ever. Get into the music really deeply and you just tend to forget about everything else...including the fact that you've been jumping up and down for five hours and your legs are gonna be hurting so very, very much the next day. But it's always worth it and always will be. I'll rock out with my walker if I make it to old fart age. BTW, why I would love to see GnR perform, these people aren't really missing much. Axle just can't quite hit the notes as well as he used to. It's all those pints of liquor and cigs he's smoked both on stage and off that have done his voice in.
The British Darts Organisation banned smoking and drinking by players during televised matches as the sport was getting a bad name (and losing sponsorship) but to stop a British publican from drinking on the job would be harder.
That's sort of the problem. Getting pissed feels great --until the come-down. And then you have to do it again... and again... and again... and one day your body starts to conk out and it doesn't feel so good anymore. I am always suspect of having to use (rather blunt) external means to alter a personal mood state. There is always a price to pay. "Everything that is taken from the Vurt must be replaced by something of more or less equal value." -- The Hobart Constant. (Jeff Noon: "Vurt")
Yeah, there is the price to pay later down the road, but if everything was perfect, we'd be born old, work 40-50, then play the last 10 years of our life. It's kind of like retirement. Personally, I think retirement is pointless because now you have the money (hopefully) to do what you've always wanted to do but in most cases, you're too old to do it. I'm more in the state of mind that I enjoy my life now while I can then to wait until way on down the road and sit there, with my Depends on, going "Man, I wished I would have had fun with my life." I don't use drugs or alcohol to alter my personal state of mind, I just use them to enhance them. Generally put, if you're pissed off and you drink, you're just going to be a pissed off drunk. When I drink, I'm normally pretty damn happy and drinking just enhances that mood and I become the jovial drunkard who's singing way loudly with a stupid grin on my face. I don't drink much anymore but when I do, boy do I have a good time. Do I regret it the next morning? Sometimes, when my stomach feels like I ate glass the night before but once that feeling is over I generally tend to forget about the whole evening and move on with my life. The vast majority of the time, it's normally chaulked up to "Man, that was one hell of a night" between my friends and me. I just live my life by a simple set of rules. Don't dwell on the past as it's already been done and you can't do anything to change it. Don't live for the future because that future may never come. Live in the moment because, in essence, it's the only thing that matters and it might be your last.
When you become dependent on a substance, you stop enjoying it. You start needing it just to feel relatively normal. Not a good time in my book. Live too much in the moment and it's all you have left...
Personally, I've never needed a substance to make me feel normal. I know plenty of people that have/do though and I think it's a shame. I'm not going into the drugs I've done and still do as this thread isn't really about them but they're used for enhancement and I can honestly say that I'm not dependant on any of them. You can't really live too much in the moment if you're enjoying your life with your friends and loved ones. I've witnessed a bunch of crap in my life which has lead me to live my life how I do. Not to mention that I get a reality check every day when I go to work. As for the original topic... am I the only one who feels that Jagermeister is sponsering GnR? That's just the feeling I get fromt he brand dropping in the article.
Mc Causland said " the band wanted to drink beer, wine and jagermeister". Yep, that should be illegal beer on its own fine, beer with jagermeister maybe but beer wine and jagermeister sounds like a recipe to ruin a perfectly good beer! But seriously I can see where the fire marshall is coming from, it's his call. On the other hand, people can enjoy a drink without getting totally pissed. I like a few beers myself and there should be some scope for freedom of choice.
Should just be a choice of the band. If they want to get smashed on stage and put on a crappy show, that should be their prerogative , not the state's. I mean it is guns and roses for christ sake, not an afterschool special regardless.
