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Harry says sorry for Nazi costume

Discussion in 'General' started by yodasarmpit, 13 Jan 2005.

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Harry the Nazi. Wrong?

  1. Yes - He should publicly apologize for his actions

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  2. No - It was a [i]private[/i] party.

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  3. Who cares what the spare does?

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  1. [DE]FreD_S

    [DE]FreD_S Certified Specialist of Awesomeness

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    Who gives a f*** as what he goes to a fancy dress party !? So he was supposed to be the Desert fox... who cares !? I don't... But there you have it again... the press... pfft...

    Cheers

    Fred
     
  2. jezmck

    jezmck Well-Known Member

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    He did nothing wrong, as has been mentioned - it was a private party.
    I think there are more important things happening in the world right now.
    This shall be my last comment on the matter since I think that the sooner we the public forget about it, the sooner the press will.

    Germany actually.
     
  3. Dodge

    Dodge New Member

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    question time last night was discussing this. And how much did that blonde woman annoy me, it was shut up you silly cow. She was just insulting all young people with the same brush which i found quite offensive. Like someone said in the audiance, when did the british people loose their sense of hummor. :sigh:
     
  4. acrimonious

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    I agree with what's been said here, I certainly don't care what he gets upto in his own private time.

    However, the British public are the people that are paying for these peoples lavish lifestyle, not because they have any role in the political system (well, at least a major one) anymore but because these people are ambassadors of the UK. The title of the party was "natives and colonials", which leads you to question these peoples frame of mind in the first place but - for an adult who is supposed to be a representative of this country and the people of it, and is upkept by the public to do so, I think it was pretty tactless to go to a party, where it was obvious he would be photographed, in a Nazi costume.

    It's a really senstitive issue, highlighted by all this "queen appology" recently, hell if he'd done this in Germany he'd be arrested. He is one of the people in this country who you expect to be surpemely aware of international affairs and diplomacy so as I said, I think what he did was unacceptable.

    If he really hates being a Prince so much, if he just wants to be a normal guy, go to public fancy dress parties without having to consider the ramifications of the costume he wears then all he has to do is renounce his title. It's entirely his choice.
     
  5. GreatOldOne

    GreatOldOne Wannabe Martian

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    Hey, maybe he should be prosocuted under German Law. He's part German you know. House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and all that...

    Remember the Blackadder Sketch?

    Darling: Look, I'm as British as Queen Victoria.
    Edmund: So your father's German, you're half German, and you married a German?

    ;)
     
  6. Risky

    Risky Well-Known Member

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    Lets see, he goes to Eton and despite all the education money can buy, he manages a B in art and a D in geography. Not all he's expected to do as a royal, is not to make a fool of youself and......

    ...Now you see why they used to always make them join the Navy, where they're safely at sea as much as possible.

    All said he does seem a bit dim even by the standard of the family!
     
  7. mushky

    mushky gimme snails

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    He should avoid situations that could potentially turn out like this. While wearing such a costume is IMO harmless, it should be avoided by figures such as the royal family IN CASE someone is there to take pics for the tabloids.
     
  8. jgrade

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    From accross I think what he did was inapproiate to say the least. If it wasn't a private party and he was a "regular" guy he would have the living s**t kicked out of him for showing up wearing something like that.

    The fact that he is a public figure makes it all the worse. Have some common sense man! It's about as sensible as Jeena Bush dressing like Princess Diana after the accident (No disrespect, making a point) or Geeorge dressing like Saddam Hussein. :sigh:
     
  9. CyberSol

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    ***, looks like he has to go visit Auschwitz

    -CNN
    LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Britain's Prince Charles has ordered his son Harry to visit Auschwitz after he caused outrage around the world by wearing a Nazi uniform to a party, the Sun newspaper reported on Friday.

    The paper said heir-to-the-throne Charles was "incandescent with rage" with the 20-year-old grandson of Queen Elizabeth and wants him to make a private trip to the concentration camp to learn more about the Holocaust.

    Jewish groups had demanded Harry go the camp in southwest Poland to make amends for wearing a swastika armband and an army shirt with Nazi regalia at a costume party on Saturday.

    The Sun, which broke the Nazi gaffe story on Thursday, quoted an unnamed royal source as saying that Prince Charles also told his older son, William, to travel with Harry to Auschwitz.

    "There will be no publicity and they will go with a Jewish charity," the source was quoted as saying in the Sun.

    "Their father has visited Auschwitz himself and believes Harry and William would both benefit by grasping a greater understanding of the horrors by actually visiting."

    The paper said William, 22, accepted part of the blame because he was present when Harry picked the Nazi costume in a hire shop before the private party in southwest England.

    A royal spokesman said he would not comment on any private conversations between Prince Charles and his sons, adding: "We wouldn't rule it out, we wouldn't rule it in."

    Harry's behavior drew a storm of protest from around the world, coming two weeks before the Jan. 27 events to commemorate 60 years since the liberation of Auschwitz.

    The Nazis murdered six million Jews and millions of others including Poles, homosexuals, Soviet prisoners and Gypsies. Millions more were imprisoned or forced to work as slaves.

    Harry, son of the late Princess Diana and third in line to the throne, said he was sorry if he had caused any offence. "It was a poor choice of costume and I apologize," he said.

    His apology failed to take the heat out of the row, which led television news bulletins and dominated front pages of British newspapers on Friday.

    The mass-market Daily Mail demanded in a huge page one headline "Come out and say sorry properly!," while the downmarket Daily Star branded Harry "The Fool in the Crown."

    The voice of the establishment, The Times, dismissed his apology as "feeble" and said he had fallen in with "a dubious group of self-indulgent young men who are apparently content with a life of pointless privilege."

    The Guardian noted: "This young man could one day be our king. That is a sobering thought to many, if not yet to Prince Harry himself."

    The Mirror was kinder, reminding readers he was young when his mother Diana died in a Paris car crash in 1997 and "deserves a little understanding."
     
  10. ModMonkey

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    I'd just like to publicly apologise to the natives of Transylvania for that time that i went to a fancy dress party as Count Dracula. I now realise how foolish and insensitive this was of me.

    Sorry.
     
  11. KingofHearts

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    Im sorry I dont care about the paper I have no sympathy for this guy at all. Hes a public figure. That was an incredibly stupid thing to do no matter who published it. No common sense at all.

    You can bet if a public figure in the USA did this even as "just costume" UK people would rip them (and the US) to shreds. Getting all passinate and blowing it out of proportion. But since its in the UK its hey "no big deal" and "just a party".


    so funny
     
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  12. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit No longer the other Brett.

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    I dont think it would make any difference tbh.

    Seriously though you should see the way the media over here are focusing on this whole thing, its completly manufactured, there would be no public outcry if the media companies didnt try to out do each other with over inflated headlines and soundbites.

    And to be honest the point of my thread was to highlight the way the media (who have obviously become bored with the tsunami story, ran out of new things to print) have focused on this inoccent action and turned it into the biggest story of the week.

    Instead of a page 5 "Look at the royal plonker" side story he is now public enemy no1.

    I'm glad I'm not famous, they would have a field day..
     
  13. Skaa

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    ...Who was executed for his part in the attempt to overthrow/assassinate Hitler. :eyebrow:

    It was, by his own admission, a poor choice but the media really have nothing better to write about. They are the real disgrace. Winkers (sp)
     
  14. Ligoman17

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    Even worse than the media blowing it out of proportion are the people who are calling for this kid's head. What he did was certainly tasteless, but it was a private party not a public event! Regardless, he does have a responsibility to represent his country as a public figure and so I have an idea for a more fitting punishment. Auschwitz is only one side of the story. What they should make him do is perform 100 hours of community service with his elderly countrymen who fought in WWII so that he could have the right to make an ass of himself at a private party.

    When I saw him in that uniform the first thing that came to my mind was the bombing of London and the subsequent Normandy invasion. If anything, he should be reprimanded for being so disrespectful towards that generation and the sacrifices they made to liberate us all from that menace.

    EDIT: And by the way. Your tabliods seem to always be on this kid's case. I remember not that long ago when he got caught smoking weed there were all these stories going about regarding what a disgrace he was and blah blah blah. I even remember seeing a full page spread giving a tour of the shack "where it all happened" :rolleyes:
     
  15. robbins1940

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    Does anyone else think who the bloody heck cares about what Prince Harry wore?

    No one complains when Fredie Starr does a nazi impression as part of his act.

    Who here hasn't taken the mickey out of Nazis in the past and said 'Ve vill make you talk' in a mock german accent.

    Davd
     
  16. Kameleon

    Kameleon is watching you...

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    Do I care what he gets up to in private? No.
    Do I care that he dressed up as a Nazi? No.
    Do I care that there are people who are deeply offended by this and deserve an apology? Yes.

    The problem is that there is no such thing as a "private" party where the Royal family is concerned, these things have a way of getting out, and after all the **** he's been through with the press he should know this by now, and he should be far more careful. Hopefully this time he'll learn...:rolleyes:

    Maybe he's been spending a little too much time with Prince Philip...
     
  17. Uncle Psychosis

    Uncle Psychosis Classically Trained

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    The boy is a complete fool and an embarassment. He knows fine well that anything he does is going to hit the papers, so what does he do? Wear a Nazi symbol whilst people are commemorating the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. Numbskull.

    Fair enough, your average joe could just about get away with this, but he is not your average joe. Part of his "job" (thats a laugh) is acting as an ambassador for this country, and that means he has to conduct himself in a manner which befits his position. It's part and parcel of the role- you have to behave and appear whiter than white. If he doesn't like it then he should renounce any benefits he gets from being a Royal and then he can go and do whatever his heart's desire (which seems to be being a wonderful little ned).

    What I find unsettling, however, is that hardly any of the papers seem to have picked up on the fact that the theme of the party was "colonials and natives". Personally I find that almost as worrying as his attire, if not more so... I also find the attitude of his "chums" rather enlightening, as it was one of them that sold the story to the papers in the first place...

    Mind you, I can't really say I'm surprised at the whole escapade---he has already shown himself up as a mindless thug on many an occasion, his [great, great] uncle was a Nazi sympathiser and don't even get me started on Phillip...

    Sam
     
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  18. fathazza

    fathazza Freed on Probation

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    great great uncle tbh, get your facts right sam :eyebrow:
    unless there is something about prince Andrew, or Edward that i don't know about
     
  19. Uncle Psychosis

    Uncle Psychosis Classically Trained

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    Ok, great great Uncle then :D

    But, to be honest, the royals are all so inbred that Harry is probably his own uncle or something :D

    Sam
     
  20. eddie_dane

    eddie_dane Used to mod pc's now I mod houses

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    One good thing has come of this... "incandescent with rage" is my new motto. :hehe:
     

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