Other Have I missed the point of Apple products?

I assume so... same OS, but I'm not sure.

 

Most purchases are irrational and that is why people buy big shiny cars, new TV's and iThings.

 

same here lol I guess I've gotten used to how the damned thing works now

 

Really? I've seen a 2006 macbook pro with tiger play 63 quicktime .mov files at once and I could expose, switch between them and play counterstrike at the same time I think ive even posted a screenshot on bit like 5 years ago.

Premiere is not really a proper editing tool and final cut pro (before the dreaded X version) was the gold standard for non linear video editing. He has a valid point but that is just irrelevant to most people.

Macs can play games too, we have steam, starcraft and a couple of others. If you rarely play (as I do) or play only a few games (as I do) it makes no difference. You can run windows on a mac and play whatever you want anyway, either through parallels/wine or natively. You can't run final-cut (legally) on a windows machine. Ergo macs give you more options.

You find windows easier to use and snappy, but it is not for all those "noobz" who bought macs without thinking about "scalable specs" because "scalable specs" were "irrelevant" in the "usage scenario" they had in mind. They had say 1000 euro and found macs were the best BOTH design wise (who wants ugly stuff, like most windows machines), software wise (os x is really easier to learn, especially for older people - the idea is simple - less buttons, more keyboard shortcuts should cater to both power users and non tech savvy ones), stability wise (many net admins I know have gotten macbook airs for their quality), form factor wise (laptops should not be heavy, but should be solid - see my point about popularity of mba among admins/devs on the go), battery-life wise (combined with form factor, why do all windows/linux laptops require heavy and bulky battery packs?!)

buying a computer you buy more than just a spec, because it is no longer exclusively geeks' domain. It is a commodity just like any other, there are other ways to differentiate a computer, apart from the specs. Apple was the first to notice that and they are now raking up the cash.

 

Nexxo, thanks for the psycho-analysis based on the few text based messages I posted here. Too bad you're pretty far off.

I built a PC about two years ago and it has caused me very little trouble, I've added some parts but haven't upgraded anything. I'm still running XP. I'm no elitist.

Honestly, I know a handful of people who own Apple products and I never initiate an assault against their product. They are the ones who'll say, "God XP is ****", or "look how sexy my Macbook is". What I will tell people is that if they're just going to use Microsoft office an internet browser and itunes, then Windows is just as user friendly because those things are the same in Windows.

 

Then my comments don't apply to you. So why U mad, bro?

 

I'm not mad, but it is a dangerous statement to come onto a PC forum and call us all elitists for wanting a supercomputer geek machine

Anyways, have a great day everybody, Apple and PC users alike

 

Urgh! Every. Damn. Time!

I do find it funny how some of us will happily spend £200+ on a shiny Aluminium TJ07 or Lian Li over a much much lower priced case which performs better thermally, has more features, better cable management, but may not be as sturdy or nice looking... interesting parallel wouldn't you agree.

 

How so? I've used it almost exclusively for years and never felt any shortcomings.

 

I don't agree that expensive cases have inferior cooling.

 

I didn't say all of them do... either you completely missed the point or are being facetious. I am going to go with the latter.

It was just a comment on how most of us will happily spend money on something purely based on looks or any other qualifiers which are not power or value when it comes to our PC's, but when it is an entire PC (i.e. Mac) some frown upon that.

 

I missed the bit where he said all expensive cases have inferior cooling, maybe you could highlight it for me.

Though if you want to play those games as well as a computer with a discrete graphics card your looking at the mac pro, which is a very hard to justify purchase for most. (Yes, I'd like them to make a consumer tower mac)

Kinda a dick move by apple that, only producing a lot of their software for OSX. I'd be interested to see what would happen if Microsoft played apples game and only produced MS software for windows.

 

In order to get your PC video card to work under OS X it needs firmware with a few EFI hooks in it. It’s not a huge change, but for whatever reason PC specific cards don’t have it. Now you can do some Googling and find ROM dumps for various PC cards that will enable Mac operation, or you can buy a "Mac Edition" card that comes EFI equipped from the factory. These are becoming more ubiquitous.

 

Yeah ok it was my first post of the day! My post didn't make much sense.

I really don't understand the hate or dislike some people have towards Apple products, it's perfectly ok to buy stuff purely based on aesthetics and I agree with you.

 

Let me guess... you pay twice as much as a PC version from Scan. Am I right?

 

No. There's a price premium for Mac cards, simply because they can't just come off the same production line as the PC cards (i.e.: they need an extra firmware chip to be soldered), and as it's smaller market they cost more. The premium is about 50% when new, but the downside is that while PC cards drop in price over time, the small market means the Mac ones don't.

 

And often you can just re-flash a PC card and roll your own.

 

Plus.. I think the fastest card I've seen for a Mac is the 5870.

Pay more, get less.

 

Depends on what you want to pay for. Some people want fast graphics; some people want a computer they can use like a toaster: turn on, do the work you want to do, turn off.