Electronics HDD LED header

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  1. Supercool

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    Does anyone know if it's alright to connect 2 LED's in parallel to the HDD LED header on a motherboard?

    I want the one in the front of my case and one elsewhere for a tiny mod I'm planning :dremel:

    Cheers :thumb:
     
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    Yes, it will work fine (I do it)
    Two LEDs in parallel should come out to ~40mA
    The HD can handle up to ~90mA
     
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    Not sure I follow that, Zap. Doesn't the stock led have a series resistor or some current-limit system on the mobo? Then adding an extra led in parallel with the original will give the same current divided between the two? :confused:
     
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    The motherboard does have a resistor.
    But remember that the resistors only takes up the Extra voltage left over.

    For example:
    Take a 2volt LED

    +5volts----/\/\/----LED---GND

    There will be 3 volts that the resistor will absorb.

    BUT take the same LED and put two in parallel on one resistor

    +5volts----/\/\/---+-----LED-----GND
    ..........................+-----LED-----GND

    The two LEDs have 2 volts.. but in parallel the voltage drop will be lower (around 1.2-1.5volts) so the voltage across the resistor will increase, increasing the overall current load.

    But it's nothing to worry about.
     
  5. Supercool

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    Thanks, I'll try it tomorrow when I get around to putting everything back together :)
     
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    I get your drift, but the Vf change isn't much at all in those circumstances (leastways, not with the Kingbright leds I usually get).

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    With these common Kingbright reds, Vf at 20mA is 2.0v, so a 150R resistor is spot-on at 5v supply. Add another parallel led, current through each is around 10mA, and from the chart, Vf will only have dropped to 1.9v. Put that back in the (Vs-Vf)/R equation and the total current has only gone up to 20.7mA, with each led now getting 10.35mA.

    So they'll be a tad dimmer, but bright enough for case leds & no danger of blowing the HDDA electronics. :thumb:
     
  7. Guest-2808

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    One transistor, one resistor, problem solved :)

    I am planning to do this for my own case, perhaps. There are six HD LEDs on the front of the case, but I might use them for something else instead (CPU meter perhaps?). So, I was thinking I might do lots of backlit HD indicators for my 8 channel RAID (don't have 8 HDs yet though), using a transistor.

    Side note: if you use several LEDs in series and their combined voltages add up to the supply voltage (e.g. six 2V LEDs in series from a 12V supply) you don't need a resistor.

    MoJo
     
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    Thanks Zap, that was basically the plan. Instead of cutting the IDE cables though, I intend to just use the spare connector as each of the 8 channels can only take one hard drive anyway.

    MoJo
     

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