hey guys, im looking for a skt 939 agp matx mobo and i cant find them anywhere. i looked on newegg and i got 2 crapy ones, can anyone help me find a decient one? im looking for a retailer in the us also. thanks for your time, hobbs
Looking for AGP will SOL you. THer Tforce Biostar and MSI and the MSI RS480 are GREAT mATXes that feature some rather nice onboards if you're saving for a PCI-E VGA card...
You're not losing any FSB with 939, who told you that? FSB is in sync with MHz speed, so it's wherever you want to take it...
What board would that be? I think the numbers are getting a bit mixed up here. Hobbs, the 400mhz on your nf2 chipset is 400mhz ddr, so that would correspond to up to 200 in the bios. If you have a "333mhz FSB" Athlon XP then 166mhz is the stock fsb (divide by 2 for the ddr) and 178mhz would be an OC of 12mhz (24mhz ddr), giving you a 356mhz ddr FSB. Kayin, when he said 800mhz I'm guessing he meant HTTxHTT Multi which would give 800 (200 HTT x4 multi. I think. Or 200x5 for 1000mhz) I'm fairly new to the whole athlon64/htt scene so please correct me if I'm wrong.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131558 that would be the mobo and im planning on getting a 3700+ if it matters i have ocz pc 3200
Interesting that it says 800mhz there, perhaps it's a limitation with the VIA K8M800 chipset? I don't have the slightest bit of knowledge about those but that would make sense.
There is no front side bus in the traditional sense on the Athlon 64s. HapeMask is right - what they are referring to is the HyperTransport interconnect between the K8 CPU and the northbridge rather than any interface involving the memory. Socket 754 ran its HTT link at a speed of 800MHz (1.6GHz DDR), while Socket 939 boosted this to a speed of 1000MHz (2GHz DDR). Socket 754 is the original socket for Athlon 64 processors and supports only a single-channel unbuffered memory interface. While that's not a massive performance hit, AMD quickly moved to the technically superior Socket 939 and consequently all the processors for 754 are outdated models. Socket 939, which is shortly due for replacement with Socket AM2, is newer and has a much wider range of processors available which range from the simple 3000+ to the FX-60. Neither of these sockets are bottlenecked by the HTT link. Indeed, the link is actually much faster than it needs to be. Why would AMD have the speed set so that it would limit the CPU? They aren't going to reduce performance of their own products on purpose. Choosing Socket 754 will result in a very limited upgrade path and I wouldn't recommend it. You would be much better off buying either a full ATX Socket 939 motherboard (the ASRock Dual-SATA2 comes to mind) or selling your graphics card while it's worth something and getting a good PCI-Express part.
thanks, that kinda answers my question but if i do upgrade it wont be for a long while as i jsut bought my viedo card about a month and a half ago, so should i go with that asus mobo? would the 800mhz fsb limit my cpu that much?
get rid of it and get the Asrock board, i simply cant stand Via chipsets anymore they have fallen behind so much. Its best with what Hitman012 said. keep ur gfx but get the Asrock mobo and a nice 939 cpu and ur all set for a good while. 745 is simply a dead horse and there is simple no use to spend money on it.
but my problem it needs to matx, i have a silverstone sugo. one 2 939 boards out there and its eather asus or pc chips
