Hilliary vs. Trump: The 2016 US Presidental Election

Why are trees tall?

Surely the most utilitarian strategy would be for them all agree to grow to a set height, equally distributing sunlight among them.

Before you start espousing economic ideology, please consider the mathematics.

 

This for me would be more in context of say abuse of drugs and alcohol more than any change taking place on the scale of a nation. For change to work enough people would first have to experience the same situation and then leadership would be required. With leadership this has usually lead to revolutions and those never really work.

*Why is it that a lot of people wont change until the pain of their circumstances exceed the pain of change, kind of thing.

Just look at France, people have in general been told that it was this glorious great beneficial thing when it was anything but, at one point it even got so bad that they tried to reinstate the monarchy but by then too much time had past, most of them were killed together with the aristocracy and with them the hole social structure was gone so there was nothing left to go back to. But hey, at least the French managed to rid themselves of those oppressive and pesky royals only to replace them with oppressive and pesky bureaucrats and intellectuals instead. Vive la revolution!

The establishment has abused democracy to the point of people in general either no longer believing in it or no longer giving a rats ass about it as they go about their daily lives, they have become jaded. For democracy to work people also have to participate and be in control of their own lives, not expect government to do everything for them or be the solution to the problems that they are experiencing.

What government has basically managed to do here is to create children who are unable to self govern. it's just like government likes it. If people were able to govern themselves to a larger extent government wouldn't be able to throw its weight around as it does now.

 

Oh dear......This is not good at all.

 

If it wasn't so serious this would be funny.

 

That gay frogs thing is hilarious though.

 

that's pretty interesting because there were a lot of people very vocal that this was actually what was being done but there was no evidence, only hear say?
possible a few people who got 15$ a hour to disrupt the trump events coming forward and telling?

That video is one of the most incriminating things, just lol.

Did any channels like CNN, BBC, or any big news cover it as a front page item?

That video and its contents is not front page news?

Did any of the top 100 news papers run a story?
No,
fully expect the answer is no.


That is fundamentally wrong and not the way any of us should expect society to function.
World is not a place that good wins over evil obviously.

Intelligence and right does not prevail over the majority and wrong, at least in the short term.


Hillary is getting in.

 

If the mainstream media once again choose to ignore this, they will become open game in some quite inventive ways.
The silence from the "conspiracy theory conversation stoppers" is deafening.
Maybe they are closing their ears and eyes and clicking thier heels hopping this will go away.
Ignorance always ends in tears.

Here is part two realeased today:



Interesting times ahead for the US, I think more inconvenient truths are on the way too.
Over here too, people are wising up to extent of corruption from the polling booths to the seats of leadership.

 

Its not going to be a normal election, some thing or things are going to happen is my prediction.

vote fraud is obviously going to happen. Its pretty ridicules to expect the powers that be to run a fair vote election. none of us would allow it if we were in their shoes so why should we expect it to happen?

Huge massive fraud is a given.(further) even if trump won by 80% to 20% he would lose. Its just not going to be allowed to happen period. no expense, no stone unturned, no amount of any thing is being held back, as is evident.

I am starting to save for a few months for a few bits and pieces so I am looking to bank £1.5k on this election on the early heads up from a Rense show few years ago.





Hour 3 - Charles R. Smith - Staggering Wiki Emails
Proving The Shadow Government

Above guy is pretty impressive with his knowledge of political / global / military technology(inside out). will listen the w/e his update views

 

nice editing work, amusing.

 

Trust in the media is already very low anyway in America.

Press came in at 6% great deal of confidence, 52% only some confidence, 41% hardly any confidence.
The only thing that did worse in that poll was Congress with 4% great deal of confidence, 46% only some confidence, 50% hardly any confidence.

Source:
https://www.americanpressinstitute.org/publications/reports/survey-research/trust-news/single-page/

Sorry, it is a rather long article, so you'll be scrolling a while.

 

'Stop whining' - Obama blasts Trump vote-rigging claim
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37697441



Can i get a reality check? leaving the subject to the side of the
Talk obama made.

Note his comments about trump not being fit for office. (Towards end of vid)

I cant understand it, its like the twilight zone or some thing.
How is that acceptable that a sitting president Skew the opinons
Of people by talking like that, is there meant to be an air
Of impartiality shown? Space for the electorate to pounder?

Is it just me or by him even speaking like that is actually provong the
Merit of what he is saying.

Its like, if a judge ( trying to think of an example) said ok
Jury please go and delibrate, and as they start leaving to sit and talk
Over the case, the judge starts stating his personsl opinon?

Is there any previous example of this? Surely this is against the ethos
Of a fair and even playing feild ?

I dont seem to remeber ever seeing this in the UK?
Is it because our system is different?

Just unbeileveable
Obama has a single vote he personally can make, he can state his opinon if asked but
Going above and behond in official settings, and hamming it up biasing people with his position.

It just serms insanely wrong.

Like the twilight zone no?

Does any one else see that and it fits into the way you expect it to be?

 

Obama is in the same political party as Hillary, so of course he is going to support her in public, not like he would have a choice, if he did anything else he would be a traitor to the democrats.
When it comes to casting his vote however he could write in his dog and no one would care.

 

If the election is going to be rigged in Hillary's favour then I guess Trump will be telling his supporters not to bother voting.

 

Very interesting.

Don't forget James O'Keefe is well known for very manipulative editing, so take everything you see with a grain of salt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_O'Keefe
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

I hope he releases the unedited conversations so we can understand the full context of some of the appalling statements made in the video.

 

Something I've been thinking about the last few days...

Trump likes to brag about his sexual prowess, how hot his wife is, how he can take sexual advantage of women and get away with it, etc...

Can you imagine the fallout if Hillary said "Bill and I continue to enjoy an active and satisfying sex life"?

It's yet another example of the inherent sex ism in our society. It's OK for a 70 year old man to have a very public sex life, but we don't even want to think about the idea of a 70 year old woman having sex, regardless of the context. As a society we are incredibly uncomfortable with and even threatened by female sexuality and barely tolerate any discussion of it in the public sphere.

 

Of course it's a no, as Pliqu3011 pointed out James O'Keefe is what would be classed as an unreliable source due to his manipulation of the facts.

It's not OK in my books, i don't want to know anything about anyone's sex life, let alone a 70 year old fat ginger bloke.

 

It baffles me that folks who criticise mainstream media bias often have no trouble at all in believing the garbage that's posted online as "news".

 

Was having a morning tea with a few professionals, I brought up the topic of the election.
I never seen an american so angry, wow.

His opinon was hillary was an angel basicly, and trump was the worse thing since the plauge.

If you take the most energetic motivated pro either side, you have the complete stuborn opposite on the other side.

This is a higely confrontational election, i saw just how insane and blinkers on a supposed inteligent person can be and it is scary as hell, no mistake, do not talk about the election in a profesdional setting around americans.

Lot of stubborn arogance on both sides, only common ground to end the talk (was frantically searching to save my neck lol) america should not be in the poistion of depreciation that some one like trump is piggy backing on.

Lot of violence anger behind this election, huge.

 

Oh what I'd have given to be a fly on the wall...