Hilliary vs. Trump: The 2016 US Presidental Election

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  1. VipersGratitude

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    That's a distorted way of viewing the world based on religious human exceptionalism. Not only are we part of nature, making all our endeavours perfectly natural, but all animals tamper with nature. The Hoover Dam is just as natural as a beaver dam
     
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  2. Nexxo

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    Just repeating an assertion does not make it true.

    Their genes and cultural influences stayed. You and I both have Mongol genes (in fact you and I share family around 1000 years ago).

    In the Netherlands we have the tradition of Sinterklaas (a Santa Claus figure). Tradition is that on the 5th December a Spanish bishop comes from Spain with his assistant called "Zwarte Piet" (Black Pete) and his Moorish minions to ride across the rooftops at night on his white horse, leaving spiced biscuits and presents for all children who have been good. Moorish influence on Dutch culture, imported by the Spanish conquest of the Netherlands, right there.

    Of course Moorish culture and genes also stayed behind in the Mediterranean.

    And yet their genes, culture and religion were left behind, as indeed were European genes and cultural influences left behind in the Middle East after they were driven out after the crusades.

    No, tampering with nature is in our nature, and hence part of nature. As I said: most people don't get how evolution works.
     
  3. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    I would not call a 150 year Ottoman occupation of Hungary as a "failed invasion". And certainly their genes were mixed with local ones.
     
  4. theshadow2001

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  5. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Contradictory much!

    You get genetic diversity within your own race but at the same time putting everyone in a blender (like you do within your own race) removes it. :duh:
     
  6. walle

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    It is neither distorted or based on religion but on the responsibility and options that comes with it.

    Your nature (as an example) is to have the option of either building it or not building it, as I've said, just because you can doesn't mean you should. A beaver cannot. He blindly builds it. It's what he does. He didn't woke up one day with options.

    It all comes down to genetics and natural inherent programmed desires. Again, very much like in nature. In any case, if it's not enough individuals around who also have offspring you will get genetic defects and eventually they will die out. None of this is an assertion but a biological fact.

    First part is actually not entirely accurate and the second part is not accurate either. We've been over this one before, no point in going over it yet again.

    Zwarte Piet
    Oh yes, that's what all the fuss is all about over there.

    Good thing we drove them out.

    You should read. The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain.
     
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  7. VipersGratitude

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    No, you're characterising a spectrum as a boundary
     
  8. Nexxo

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    As VipersGratitude says (with elegant conciseness): you are interpreting a spectrum as a boundary. You also seem not to consider the phenomenon of emergence in evolution.

    Now you're just waffling.

    Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's not true.

    Irrelevant to this discussion.
     
  9. VipersGratitude

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    FTFY :D
     
  10. walle

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    You're free to dismiss both nature and biological reality.

    Last time you brought it up I demonstrated that you were wrong, giving you the example of the Nordics and Icelandics.

    Not really since it's in context of influence. As I said, good thing we drove them out.
     
  11. Nexxo

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    Straw man argument.

    No, you just chose to assume that you did.

    Repeating a statement does not make it more relevant either.

    Let me just check: are we still having the same conversation? :p
     
  12. Nexxo

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    And again... :p
     
  13. walle

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    No I did, you just made the choice to ignore it. Just like now.

    It doesn't make it any less relevant or any less factual either.

    Judging by the straw man comment it's something you should ask yourself.:hehe:
     
  14. Nexxo

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    /quietly closes the door and moves on.
     
  15. TheBlackSwordsMan

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    So the BBC has been banned from the White House?
     
  16. Corky42

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    I'm not sure, from what I've read some media outlets (including the BBC) where refused entry to an impromptu press conference, the sort of thing that normally happens if the press secretary or president can't meet with the press in the normal press conference room, only from what i can tell there was no reason to hold what they call a "gaggle".

    It does seem to be a continuation of Trump's attack against the press.
     
  17. VipersGratitude

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    If I had hands as small as Trump's I'd ban BBC from the white house too :eyebrow:
     
  18. Corky42

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    He's trying to minimise the people that hold him to account, the judiciary and the press may well tell the public how small his hands really are. :)
     
  19. faugusztin

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  20. Nexxo

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    Fox News should update its name to Fake News.

    Hey, it's trendy.
     

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