Hilliary vs. Trump: The 2016 US Presidental Election

Not anymore I'm not

 

Was it something I said?...

 

nah I think Saladin turned up and was kind to the posters in the thread.....

 

You've gotta be ****ing kidding...

 

Tom Price must have been speaking with Theresa May as they both seem to think calling an act of law "great" or "greatest" will convince people they're not about to get shafted.

 

It's a great health care plan. Honestly, it's really great. There's no greater health care plan than this one. Great job.

 

We've commercialized pretty much everything we've ever come up with, healthcare is no different.

Not saying yay or nay.

 

It just occurred to me how darkly funny it is that the rise of Trump and the role the Russians played in securing his election is could be straight out of the playbook of the CIA backed coups during the cold war. I bet Putin finds the irony particularly delicious.

 

Admittedly that thought did put a smile on my face.

 

The Russians may have tried to influence the election, I think Hillary scared the crap out of them with her anti-Russian rhetoric, but, that they should have been able to secure his place in the white house I think is nonsense. I don't believe they have the infrastructure required to begin with. I think this is more about demonizing the Russians whilst undermining Trump and they've had Russia in their sights for a long time, they simply don't like Russia very much because A: they don't control Russia (at least not on the surface) B: Russia is not very globalist / monoculture friendly. And C: perhaps it's the only sovereign country left able to somewhat oppose it.

I find it a bit hypocritical that they would attack Russia and accuse her of doing what they themselves have been guilty of for decades, namely: messing with foreign elections, toppling governments, even assassinations etc.

When it comes to Trump I think the Russians are beginning to see that he's a bit, shall we say, unstable. He sure knows how to keep people on an emotional roller coaster caught up in the drama.

 

Given what's been leaked about Americans cyber warfare capabilities i think it's safe to say Russia defiantly has the capabilities as when Marcel Lettre, undersecretary of defense for intelligence was questioned by a Armed Services Committee he said the following...

So to say you doubt the capabilities of the Russians seems contrary to what people in the know are saying, and while it's impossible to know how the leaking of Clinton's emails effected the election i think it's safe to assume it did to some extent, especially when you consider most people who harped on about the leak couldn't cite a single incriminating email, all they seemed to care about was the fact that Clinton was crooked because of her use of a private email server despite that being perfectly legal.

 

This showed up in the sidebar after clicking your link. I feel it perfectly illustrates why, through the lens of divide et impera, democracy is increasingly irrelevant.

 

https://twitter.com/realtrumpatine

EDIT: one more

 

Meanwhile:

Trump supporters cannot tell the difference between fictional anti-Nazi resistance radio and real criticism of Trump... ("Wait, are we the baddies?")

And a new bill is being pushed by the Republicans, which enables companies to force employees to have genetic tests and share the results with them and third parties.

 

Have you read some of the replies to the people who tweeted about it, it's really funny to read their responses, even after being told it's an advert for The Man In The High Castle they still seem to think it's linked to some liberal conspiracy or plot to brainwash people.

 

Goes to prove that just because you're paranoid, well, you're crazy.

 

Isn't thinking those are still things a bit contradictory now Trump's in the WH?

I mean wasn't Trump said to be the archetypal anti-establishment, tell it as it is candidate?

So either Trump's false or all those conspiratorial government coverups are, if the conspiracy theorists now believe Trump has been coerced into not saying anything then hes sold them out, if he hasn't then all those government coverup's are false.

 

Careful now. If you try and explain that to Trump's supporters, you'll cause: