Hilliary vs. Trump: The 2016 US Presidental Election

rense dislikes pence a lot and states he is a globalist and there is a real danger that if trump should not be able to continue for any reason, it would not be good for "the cause".

do you have the link for the video?


Huma Abedin Said To Suffer Emotional Breakdown

 

I think he is already wishing he could back out, to be honest. You are expecting a businessman with no experience of politics to take on a political establishment that is a ninja master at doing what it does. And one that has profited quite nicely from that ecosystem at that.

You do realise he says that both realities are movies, do you?

 

a war has just been fought and lost from your side of the fence, you might want to step down from your high horse and start watching sites which have the president of the united states as one of its loyal followers.

silly people no? in a bubble of confusion disconnection rejection and are by the way side along with a whole bunch of other people that I wont pretend to state I have the correct English terms to label.

you read and consume information from all sources (ideally from several view points) then sprout forth, you don't shoot messengers burn books or make efforts to embarrass people that question the reality of things and seek information outside of MSM.

what is this 1984 thought police ?
Go and print out some of the pre election polls from 100 of the top news media of the united states (toilet paper). For you, use it as wall paper make yourself a nice hot chocolate and dream away the next 4 years whilst a movement is progressing to remedy all the sht you agree with.

 

That part didn't fit into his movie narrative

 

Someone else has been thinking about that but in the other direction: a professor in Washington D.C., Allan Lichtman, thinks that the Republican congress will get Trump impeached so that they can have the more straight-down-the-line conservative, predictable and controllable Pence as president.

 

Sure, but that could happen regardless of who Trump picked.

 

And I must admit that I prefer Trump over Pence, so perhaps there's some truth to Trump's strategy.

 

Propaganda wars are rarely won by rational and factual argument. It's not that kind of fight.

Here's an exercise for you: pick an IQ* at which you would consider someone reasonably intelligent. Not a rocket scientist, just fairly bright and capable. Go on.

Got it? OK, now check out this here IQ curve to see how many people in the general population fall at that level or above. And how many below.

That is for all sides in the argument, not just Trump supporters or Trump protesters.

Politics is not a rational debate. Never has been. Humans don't work that way.

* And yes, IQ is a really rough, blunt measure of someone's cognitive abilities but for general purposes it will do.

 

I didn't even know i was on a side of the fence, well other than the fence separating the conspiracy theorists from the sane people.

Although perhaps you'd like to answer all those questions I've raised with you and prove me wrong?

Forget about correct English terms, how about we start with you using coherent sentences.

Indeed, but when the source you're getting your information from has been widely discredited and proven to have a thin grasp on reality it's time to question your sources, no?

BTW I'm still waiting for you to engage in the intelligent discussion you said you expected on the points I've raised with you, or is your idea of intelligent discussion posting memes and insulting people?

 

I picked 80 as someone that could make a reasoned decision on a political topic

 

Well, as I just said:

 

I'd pick 100 as the IQ scale has shifted throughout history with 100 being the average IQ at that time, i.e two or three generations ago people who scored 100 would now score less if they took a modern IQ test, at least i think that's how it goes.

EDIT: Found out it has a name, it's called the Flynn effect.

 

That would be borderline learning disabled.

The average IQ is 100. The scale is adjusted every do often for the Flynn effect (about 3 points per decade --much of it attributed to increasing education).

 

Its not rocket science. Also borderline means close to but not actually learning disabled. Good enough for purpose doesn't need to be excellent.

 

Yeah, that's why Trump looked so relaxed after meeting Obama.

Actually it is rocket science, that's the problem. People keep believing in and pursuing simplistic magic-wand solutions to the complexities of running a country and a functional society, and history keeps repeating itself because people don't learn.

 

Perhaps running the country is difficult, but that is the job of civil servants. Picking someone that coincides with your own view points is not rocket science which is all the voter has to do.

 

Flynn:
Choosing him points towards a heavy stance in regards to the Middle East.

Mnuchin:
Before running into legal trouble with the Bank he had bought after the financial crisis he worked for Goldman Sachs and Soros Fund Management...

Christie:
Severely tainted by the Bridgegate scandal, opposes LGBT rights and environmental protection.

Sessions:
Supported Iraq war, in recent years he has spent his time opposing anything and everything Obama suggested.

Gingrich:
Has some dodgy views on science, In 1997 he was hit with a $300,000 fine by the House ethics committee for his "reckless" or "intentional" use of nonprofits for partisan political ends which is highly ironical considering what the Trump campaign has been accusing Hillary of.

Giuliani:
Another Iraq war supporter, more progressive than most other republicans, the alt right will hate him.

Priebus:
He is the one responsible for getting the GOP behind Trump, zero surprise in him getting rewarded big time, but very much part of the swamp.

 

Political views are not necessarily sensible or compatible with the effective running of a country and functional society.

 

Perhaps not, but it is the prerogative of the people to do so.

 

That's a different argument. We are talking about ability, not right.