Electronics How can I tap into the PSU when the pc is off??

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  1. curme

    curme Minimodder

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    I know that there is still power in my pc when it's off, I see the little led on my mobo. But how can I hook-up something else that will work when my pc is off? For example, I have a gadget that works on 24v. How could I hook that up so that it's running, even though my pc is turned off? Dig? Oh, one more thing. If the PSU doesn't have 24v, how much can I get out of it when it's off? Where are those wires?
     
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  2. whypick1

    whypick1 The über-Pick

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    The only active line when a PSU is on while the system is off is the +5vsb line, which only supplies anywhere between 1-3A (depends on the power supply in question). If you wanted to power something that runs at 24v, then you'd need a step-up transformer. The thing about this is that you're basically trading volts for amps. If you had a 24v .5A device, then on the 5v supply side, you'd be drawing at least 2.5A (more because of losses). That'll be too much for most power supplies.
     
  3. SteveyG

    SteveyG Electromodder

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    Just a note to avoid confusion to curme, a step up transformer cannot be used directly from the output of the power supply, in fact a step up transformer would be difficult to find that had the correct turns ratio. You'd need a DC-DC converter, or a simple charge pump.
     
  4. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    A simpler way would be to use the 5v VSB supply to keep a relay on whilever the PSU is plugged in, switching a separate mains:24v supply.

    It means tapping into the mains inside the PSU, so make sure your skills are up to it. :nono:
     
  5. whypick1

    whypick1 The über-Pick

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    You're right Stevey, I tend to get the two mixed up in my head.

    edit: cool, 1234 posts. Now I know my ABCs! </Ralph Wiggum>
     
  6. Pandalet

    Pandalet What's a Dremel?

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    following on from our local superhero, you might find these monolithic regulators handy - they produce a regulated 24V (well, the 24V version does, anyway) from an input of anything between 27V and 40V. All you need to make them go from the mains is a transformer with a rectifier and a suppression capacitor or two. Add in a relay for the switching, and you're off.

    As has been said, though, you'll be working with mains-grade power, not to mention poking around in your PSU, so if you aren't sure of your skills, then don't :nono:
     

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