Look up comparative fallacy... My point with the politicians being smart is these bills that make Bush a horrible president went through over 500 what you say are reasonably smart people, and the majority of them agreed with it. No matter the decision, there are always people that will say "I told you so". There are people that think Obama is crazy spending billions of dollars trying to save these large businesses that obviously made horrible decisions. The auto-makers come to mind. If we go from recession to depression, Obama is going to be ridiculed just as you guys are doing to Bush. I've stated my beliefs for thinking Bush wasn't a horrible president, I personally am a Democrat, and i disagree with some of the things he did and I was against the war, but I for one don't condone crazy ridicule over things beyond his control, or decisions that the majority of people would have made. I'm no longer trying to sway you any bit as you, as well as myself, won't change either of our opinions on the man, I'm just throwing in there an argument so people who aren't quite sure won't get the wrong idea from reading a one sided tech-forum political debate. Decided to add on here and sum up my arguments: Bush's "Blunders" 1. War in Iraq - Congress anyone? Democrats and Republicans both voted for it, and continued to vote for it until It became unpopular to the American people. 2. Economy - Bush had basically NOTHING to do with this. All because of people being encouraged to buy on credit when they could not afford to. Speculators, bad business practices, ect. all added to its effect, but Bush couldn't have done anything really to stop it. 3. Katrina - The levees weren't built by Bush, Bush didn't tell the people to stay, they were told to evacuate and many of them decided to wait it out (lets not go into how hard it was to leave, that wasn't Bush's fault either), FEMA couldn't react fast enough because we've never had a disaster this large, they couldn't have prepared for it. 4. Energy - Every president and congress going back to the Johnson and Nixon era screwed up this one, It just has now gotten pinned on Bush. Bush's Goods 1. Protecting the country - Following 9/11 Bush did what he had to to comfort the American people and assure that there wasn't going to be another. He followed through with it by going to Iraq and Afghanistan. Say what you will, but we haven't had another terror attack since, and a lot of other countries can't say the same. 2. Africa - From AIDS to Sudan to education and such. His approval rating in Africa is a step up from his approval rating anywhere else if that tells you something about what he has helped do. 3. Healthcare - Believe it or not, Bush has helped America here. He helped initiate and pass Medicare Part D. He isn't as bad as it has become fashionable to say he is.