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Build Advice How much to save for Haswell?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by GeorgeK, 2 Apr 2013.

  1. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    When Haswell drops in a few months, I'll be upgrading my main rig and donating a fair amount of it to the GF. Having been watching out for bargains on here and on the main sites I've actually got everything I need for the upgrade except for the bits that haven't been released yet (CPU & motherboard)

    My main question (hopefully) is a simple one - how much money should I be aiming to put aside for a 4670k and a decent motherboard that will support SLI, SATA 6Gbps, 16GB DDR3 (2x8GB) and USB 3.0? My thoughts based on current prices for Ivy are about £300 - £350. Does this sound about right?

    Thanks in advance!

    George
     
  2. Kodongo

    Kodongo What's a Dremel?

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    My estimates would be:

    i5-4670k (£180)
    Mobo (£100-£120)
    16GB (£50-£70)

    So your £350 estimate looks about right.
     
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  3. heir flick

    heir flick Minimodder

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    only a guess but i can see it being about £30 to £50 more expensive than ivy, no other reason than intel can charge more and proberly will
     
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  4. rollo

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    Id be closer to £400 if it was me guessing. Estimates put the 4770k at £300. Intel may try and charge £220-£250 for the 4670k ( which is a 4770k - hyperthreading)
     
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  5. Harlequin

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    can see the i5-4670k being over £200 tbh
     
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  6. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    Thanks for the suggestions - I've already bought the RAM though, I just need the CPU + Mobo

    Balls... Well I suppose if I keep my budget at £350 and the cpu is at your estimates then I will still have £100-£150 for the mobo...

    Anyone else got any thoughts?

    +rep for the help so far!
     
  7. Guest-44432

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    I'd set aside £400, for the CPU and Mobo. Any change left over can be spent on candy & fizzy pop! :D
     
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  8. aramil

    aramil One does not simply upgrade Forums

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    I agree with the above. If you are looking to avoid disappointment I would budget more around the £450 mark and then at least you may have some spare left over.

    I would say around £400+ sounds a good ballpark figure.
     
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  9. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    Hmmm - I'd posted this hoping that £350 would be more than enough... Thanks again guys...
     
  10. rollo

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    Intel has no competition so has no reason to launch at ivy bridge prices, That is the state of the Desktop Consumer pc market right now.

    The pre order prices i have seen had the 4770k above £300 and the 4670k around the £250 mark. Wether these are the prices we will see on launch remains to be seen but it would not come as a huge surprise if that was to be the case.

    With Ivy continuing as its sub £200 chip.
     
  11. Guest-44432

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    I remember the good old days of picking up a Core2Duo 8400 and a decent mobo for well under £200. How times have changed, and prices have doubled! :(
     
  12. TrevDX

    TrevDX Ah Who Cares Anyway???

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    Is Haswell still due sometime around June/July? I want to rebuild again after dropping the desktop for a laptop but want to get my U2711 maxed out again :D
     
  13. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    As far as I know yeah
     
  14. bawjaws

    bawjaws Multimodder

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    And just think of the increase in performance between a Core2Duo and what came before it - that £200 would have been money well spent, whereas it looks like the comparitive performance increase from the current gen to Haswell will be much smaller!
     
  15. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    Money very well spent! I certainly wouldn't be upgrading if I hadn't skipped Sandy & Ivy...
     
  16. Kovoet

    Kovoet What's a Dremel?

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    Think I'll stick with my 2700k a while longer.
     
  17. Guest-44432

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    I agree - Only reason I will upgrade to Haswell-E or IB-E will be for the extra PCI-e bandwidth for running multiple cards. :)
     
  18. Xir

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    Bweh...I was hoping it'd show up sooner.
     
  19. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Sorry, but my only reaction to this post can be :wallbash:.

    First of all, last time Intel had a competition was with Lynnfield (Core i5-7xx, Core i7-8xx). Nehalem and anything after that was simply out of reach for AMD, and had no influence on Intel pricing for any quadcore CPU whatsoever for last 2 and half years. There was only a minor price fluctuation in the middle segment (Core i5-2500K vs Core i5-3570K) and zero price change on the top CPU (Core i7-2700K vs Core i7-3770K). Price of i7-4770K will be the same 300-310€ price mark as i7-3770K has; price of i5-4670K will be same as i5-3570K; price of i5-4330 will be similar to the price of i5-3330, the rest of the i5 range packed between these two.

    In short: Intel pricing does not on depend on AMD in enthusiast market for last 4 years now, and on higher mainstream it is detached from AMD pricing for last 2.5-3 years. AMD pricing is relevant only to Celeron/Pentium/Core i3 CPU range, and even in Core i3 range the effect is only minimal.

    Ivy will continue at the prices it has now until Intel stops the production, like it was the situation with any former Intel CPU range. Lynnfield, Nehalem, Sandy Bridge, not even Core 2 Quads and Duos dropped their price in shops when they got replaced by a newer architecture.

    And if one thing you should have learned not to trust in IT market, then it is the preorder prices for unreleased hardware.
     
  20. davefelcher

    davefelcher What's a Dremel?

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    RAM seems to have shot up in price on Scan. I got 16GB Corsair Vengeance for £70 a while ago; it's now over £100. The 8GB kit is about £15 more now.
     

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