Build Advice How much to save for Haswell?

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  1. okenobi

    okenobi What's a Dremel?

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    Does anyone else remember top motherboards costing £100 back in the days of the superior Athlons?! I just can't contemplate spending £350 these days. And with the performance of just about any £50 chip virtually eclipsing a stock i7-920 it seems even more silly to do so unless you HAVE TO HAVE the epeen or be able to reach 5ghz on air just for the sake of it.

    Socket A and 939 were good value. Everything since from either Intel or AMD has been a lot of money IMO.
     
  2. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    That gives me a bit of hope then!

    I'm glad I managed to pick up 16GB from Dabs for £65 now - that same kit on Scan is £99.36!!!
     
  3. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    No need to hope, that is 99% - Intel pricing scheme unchanged since many years.

    Take a look :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)
    Core i7-3770K - $332
    Core i5-3570K- $225
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)
    Core i7-2700K - $332
    Core i7-2600K - $317
    Core i5-2500K - $216
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_(microarchitecture)
    Core i7-875K - $342
    Core i7-860 - $284
    Core i5-750 - $209

    And guess what :
    Q9450 - $317.00 - http://ark.intel.com/products/33923
    Q9650 - $339.00 - http://ark.intel.com/products/35428
    And late Core 2 Duos were "surprisingly" at $170-$190 price range.

    As i said before, Intel CPU is priced at these price brackets for long time and if there are changes it is minor (mostly to accommodate the higher number of models). Top mainstream CPU is in $315-$340, the highest version with Hyperthreading removed (since Lynnfield) in the $190-$230 price range, the rest of i5 family is going down to $177 for the lowest i5 model (Core i5-3330 or Core i5-2300), then in $120-$140 range you got Core i3, and sub-$100 range you got the Celerons and Pentiums. Check that pricing for Ivy Bridge, Sandy Bridge, Nehalem, late Core 2 Duos and Quads and you will see that price changes are minimal, if at all.
     
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  4. Xir

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    My memory may fail me, but I believe I paid ~600 Marks (~250pounds) for my first Athlon. (Slot A)
     
  5. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    I think £350 will be enough for CPU+board, as you already have the RAM. The CPU should come in under £200, and the board for less than £150, leaving a bit of wiggle room on prices if one does end up a bit more.
     
  6. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    Wow - super helpful! +rep indeed!!! I think I will still up my budget to at least the £350 mark as that'll give me a bit to play with when it comes to choosing a motherboard - I'd prefer to get something good as, once I've upgraded, I don't plan to change for a good number of years (the CPU / motherboard / RAM / PSU at least!)

    Cheers mate

    George
     
  7. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    And surprise, surprise :
    http://www.techpowerup.com/183064/I...t-Desktop-Processor-Box-Pricing-Compiled.html
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    i7-4770K is $327, in line with the i7-3770K pricing. i5-4670K is $227, in line with i5-3570K pricing. Even i5-4430 is $175, in line with the i5-3330 $177 pricing.

    So as i said, expect the prices to be exactly the same (+/- 1-2 eruos due exchange rate fluctuations) as the current Ivy Bridge counterparts.
     
  8. Harlequin

    Harlequin Modder

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    the i7-4770 is clocked lower and has a higher tdp than IB i7
     
  9. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Are you seeing something else ?
    i7-4770(K) : 3.5->3.9GHz
    i7-3770K : 3.5->3.9GHz
    i7-3770 : 3.4->3.9GHz

    TDP is higher due the IGP and is a well know fact for a year or more.
     
  10. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    Yeah, the 4770K and non-K are totally matched in clock speeds (base and boost), which is nice. The 4770S also has a very tidy TDP saving of 19W, despite boosting to the same 3.9Ghz.
     
  11. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    Awesome news :D - I've put aside just under £400 for CPU & mobo so I should have a decent amount left over (which I'll probably just spend on keyboard stuff... oh well...)
     

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