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Discussion in 'General' started by lord nicon21, 21 Dec 2005.

  1. lord nicon21

    lord nicon21 sexy *******

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    hi guys i'v been looking around to get more MPG and i'v seen some hydregen kits like THIS one but what i want to know is what you think about the idea and do you think it will pass the mot and stuff with it on or would i need to get diffrent tessts done?
     
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  2. robbybertu15

    robbybertu15 <b>needs a job</b>

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    I smell a scam....
     
  3. <A88>

    <A88> Trust the Computer

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    Actually, you'd want to increase it, not lower it ;)
    (sorry to be so pedantic...)

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  4. dom_

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    you not thought about lpg?
     
  5. lord nicon21

    lord nicon21 sexy *******

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    yeah but i live 8M away from a lpg filling up plase

    <A88> lol your right :thumb:
     
  6. Adnuo

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    I'm with robbybertu, the site you linked smells like a major scam to me.
     
  7. hitman012

    hitman012 Active Member

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    That site does seem rather scammy... it does take a fair amount of energy (from your battery) to actually electrolyse the tapwater. You might also get gunky calcium build-up if you live an area where the water is particularly hard.
     
  8. DreamTheEndless

    DreamTheEndless Gravity hates Bacon

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    what about bio diesel?

    1. You can make it yourself (out of used deep fryer oil)
    2. You can burn it in any diesel car
    3. it can improve the life of the engine by 20% - 25%
    4. It's easy and cheap to produce
    5. It's great for the environment
    6. Making bio diesel doesn't give any money to the bad guys in the middle east.
     
  9. Fatboy

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    Fixed.

    well if you odnt declare it for tax :D
     
  10. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    You'll find they'll come after you with a big bill though, if they find out, you'll get a nice big bill, and I believe the equipment thats required to make bio-diesel tends to bring up certain governmental flags when bought.
     
  11. Ramble

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    Technically, that would work, however, i'd doubt you'd see much of a decrease in mpg.
    You'd still have to provide water as 'fuel'.
    And what ahppens to the left-over pure oxygen that is 'created' as a result of electrolysis?
    That would be fantastic for turbocharging.

    Realistically, your more likely to see a difference by switching to biodiesel.
     
  12. lord nicon21

    lord nicon21 sexy *******

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    yeah but water is free where i am lol.
    you get O2 from the + side and H2 - side :D ( you could turn it into a turbocharg :jawdrop: )
     
  13. DreamTheEndless

    DreamTheEndless Gravity hates Bacon

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    You need:
    1. a hotplate or other heat source
    2. a container to heat the oil in (A large pot or a 50gal drum will both work)

    and also
    3. vegetable oil (Filtered if it is used vegetable oil)
    4. Methanol -
    5. lye - trickier to get a hold of, but not a big deal

    I don't think any of these should raise a red flag, but I suppose it is possible.

    The recipie, if I remember correctly, is:

    IN -
    100 lbs of filtered vegetable oil
    15 lbs of Methanol
    1 lb of lye

    - Heat and stir -

    OUT -
    100 lbs of Bio diesel
    10 lbs of glycerin
    5 lbs of Methanol that can be used in the next batch.
    1 lb of soap
     
  14. Tibby

    Tibby Back Once Again

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    isnt glycerin explosive?

    Or am I thinking of something similar?
     
  15. specofdust

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    Nitro Glycerine is.
     
  16. tm36usa

    tm36usa New Member

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    Ahh nitro glycerine, my chem teacher makes the stuff, im too scared to go near it, its too tempramental (too put it nicely lol)

    Back to to topic, It does sound like a scam, and something about having a tank of H in your car just doesnt seem safe.
     
  17. Constructacon

    Constructacon Constructing since 1978

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    Nothing wrong with Hydrogen as far as I can see. Go team Hindenberg!
     
  18. thecrownles

    thecrownles What's a Relix?

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    Glycerin is the part of soap that makes it moisturizing, it is a clear, soft solid.

    As for the Hindenberg... don't get me started. The Hindenberg Explosion Was Not Caused By Hydrogen . If you examine the circumstances closely, you will find that the hindenberg was painted in such a way, that when they painted it and then laquered the cloth, the two chemicals reacted to produce the compound which NASA uses as solid rocket fuel. In other words, the Hindenberg was coated with rocket fuel. It was only after a spark caused the skin to ignite and vaporize that the hydrogen was ignited. Hydrogen by itself is fairly safe. It disperses very quickly away from any "spills" because it rises into the upper atmosphere. When it does ignite, it does not emit heat radiation, but instead burns with a clear flame that can be very dangerous to walk into, but will not spread the flame to nearby objects.
     
  19. xen0morph

    xen0morph Bargain wine connoisseur

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    impossible. you dont get free energy.

    if you were running the hydrogen generator from your alternator then you'd be using as much energy as you were getting out to get the hydrogen in the first place. and that's a 100% efficient system.
     
  20. lord nicon21

    lord nicon21 sexy *******

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    Yeah the idea was to have a different batty from the cars one and have a small solar panel to it to top it up so it can charge up when i'm in work.

    so your right its not free energy well it is from the sun then i'm changing it in to something i can use :p
     

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