Thats right, at the weekend I ordered a POV GTX465 1GB for £164.99 (including Mafia II for free). Madness I hear you cry? Not so. (please excuse the image tag, I have a different username on the OCUK forums) Not bad eh? A fully functional GTX470 for £165 brand new from overclockers. It turns out that (after doing alot of research) that the current batch of POV GTX465 cards have both the full compliment of 10 memory chips and the all important GF100-275-A3 GPU (GTX470). I decided to take the risk and I am pretty pleased with the results. Obviously I can't guarantee that every POV GTX465 will unlock or for that matter how long stocks will last. I have just run a couple of preminary benchmarks (Mafia II and Just Cause 2) and I am currently seeing roughly 20-25% performance increase over the pre flashed GTX465 and 15-20% increase over a stock clocked GTX460. Anyway enough of my rambling, here are few images: GTX465 box You don't get alot inside... Ah the GTX465, no wait GTX470 Stock Code Rear of the card GTX460 clocked at 800/1600/4000 out (my wife is pleased.... she gets this card in her pc), GTX470 in...
Very nice. Have you checked if POV would honour the warranty? I'd be very tempted to do this (I'm currently eyeing up 2 x 460) if I even had an IDEA where to start looking and what to do.
That is awesome, I read about this a month or so ago and was seriously considering it but if I got a duff one that didn't flash to a 470 I'd be so bummed. Congratulations on your new card.
Cheers guys, I doubt POV would honour the warranty as it is but its easy enough to flash back if I want to. Just been playing a bit of Just Cause 2 and its much 'smoother' than my GTX460.
So how far ahead of a 460 is a 470 and how far behind a 480? Just so I know if I should take a shot Also, do you reckon a 850w PSU could handle 2 x 465 (470 flashed) cards? I'll probably bottle it in the end and just buy 2 x 460
Based on my benchmarking results in Mafia II and Just Cause 2, roughly about 20% with both cards at stock. An overclocked GTX460 closes the gap somewhat but as I said above the GTX470 feels smoother (framerates are similar but the 470 is more consistant). I don't really know what its like compared to a GTX480 but I know if I clock it to around 750 on the core it should at least match 480 performance in the games I play. Your 850w PSU should be fine with two GTX470's (unlocked GTX465 or not).
Potentially there is a risk although it can always be recovered. I did alot of research before attempting this and tbh it was still a little nerve racking waiting for my monitor to re-initialise after I rebooted. In my opinion though it was worth the risk.
When I read the title of the thread I was going to post something along the lines of 'why on earth would you buy a 465?!'. I'd forgotten about the 470 bios flashing trick. Well done! At the weekend I got to mess around with my friend's 470 SLI set up and I have to say, it's a very good card. Runs very quiet as well, despite what certain reviewers may say .
Yeah, I gave the thread the title it has on purpose (as I know the GTX465 isn't that well liked). TBH I had a little play with the 465 @ 675/1350/3206 (or roughly stock GTX460 speeds) and it was pretty impressive. On the couple of benchmarks I ran it was faster than my GTX460 1GB (I attribute this to the increased SM count). Perhaps if nvidia had launched the GTX465 with faster clocks (at least 675/1350) and a lower price (IIRC they were ~£250 on launch) it could have had the same reception as the GTX460 received.
Heat and noise are in line with a GTX470 at stock. I noticed after a 30 minute session of Mafia II that my temps were in the low 70's (GTX460 was mid 60's during the same session), whilst the noise was acceptable but noticable. It is very much a 'whooshing' noise rather than a fan whine. It's louder than my 460 but not enough to be intrusive when gaming. I have however set quite an agressive fan profile in MSI afterburner which ramps up and down quite quickly. If you could accept higher temps then the fan speed (and thus the noise) could be reduced somewhat. One thing to note is my '470' has a core voltage of 0.975v, I though the 470's were generally higher than this?
I'm very tempted by this, but my case has poor air intake and with new cards from the green and red team coming soon, I don't think I'll go for it. Good for folders though.
Now why would POV stick an addition 200mb of vram in that card even though it's supposed to be a 465. It doesn't make any sense..
I don't know about typical voltages but my friend's cards were running at exactly 1V, overclocked to 800MHz . I'm surprised that the memory is all present as well on your 465 - it must cost more to take it off than to leave it on! P.S. Ph4ZeD, I thought you were buying two 460s?
I was. I ordered them and everything, then something came out, an opportunity to spend more money basically and I ended up cancelling them. Quite glad I did actually as I ordered the EVGA ones but the Gigabyte ones are better IMO Then I splashed out on a Corsair 800D which wasn't cheap!
I currently have mine at 700/1400/3368 with a core voltage of 1.000v. Temperatures hacn't moved from when it was 0.975v but it's fully stable (99% load in Metro 2033, lengthy session in Mafia II & Kombuster used to test). I will be trying for more later on this evening as my temps are perfectly acceptable (77 degrees after an hour of Metro 2033 with the fan at 79% (again I have a aggressive fan profile)). My ultimate aim is 800/1600/3750(ish). but I will be happy with 750/1500 given the price I paid for this card. I will also be putting my 'old' GTX460 back into my main pc and seeing how far it can go (800/1600/4000 is perfectly stable). I will then be running a plethora of benchmarks with bot cards at max overclock (probably 750/1500/3500 on the 470, 800/1600 might take too long to get stable for a proper benchmarking session) to see how much faster the GTX470 really is. Even at 700/1400 it *feels* alot faster than the GTX460 clocked at 800/1600 but only a proper benchmarking session will concrete this as fact. My only long term issue with the card is the potential noise, I have my fan set very aggressively to keep the temperatues in check but at 80% or above it can be quite loud. Perhaps I need to accept slightly higher load tempertues for a quieter system? It does seem odd that all of the POV cards (at least in the batch that OCUK have) are GTX470s modified with a GTX465 bios. My only assumption is that they are cards that didn't quite meet the grade at stock voltages in their own internal tests (mine runs fine at stock voltage), or it could simply be that they needed stock of a specific card and it was cheaper to simply rebadge stocked 470s' rather than make new GTX465 cards. TBH I don't think we will ever know as no one from POV or Nvidia has commented on the situation.
