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Build Advice i5 2300 v i5 760

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by chrismarkham1982, 18 Jan 2011.

  1. chrismarkham1982

    chrismarkham1982 Multimodder

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    i have been looking at building an amd x4 955 be system but have recently changed my mind due to the fact the ive been able to price up an i5 2300 build for around £260

    my question is what is better, the i5 760 or the i5 2300? and am i right that the 2300 is not overclockable?

    memory wise no matter what system i go for it will use this ram
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-...6-(1333)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-24-150v

    mobo wise im not sure but cost needs to be kept down as much as possible so any recomendations would be apprecited
     
  2. okenobi

    okenobi What's a Dremel?

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    If you don't overclock, the 2300 has a slight edge on performance and is quite a bit more efficient. However, if you do overclock, the 760 would be faster.

    If you're on a tight budget, why not get the 2300 and a P series motherboard? You always upgrade to a 2500k or 2600k later on...
     
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    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    Sandybridge rocks but you can't OC the 2300 for ****, where as the 760 would get 4GHz easy.
     
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    chrismarkham1982 Multimodder

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    yeah i will be oc'ing so its defo an easy decision then! with that in mind, £150 for the i5 760 + £35 for the ram leaving me roughly £100 for a mobo, on board gpu is a must, sata 6gbps and usb3 not essential (although would be nice) as i can either upgrade the mobo when i need them or just get an expansion card, also full size atx would be prefered, what mobo would you recomend?
     
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    ^^ These Gentlemen are in possession of a message I approve of.

    EDIT: Onboard GPU is a must? i5-2300 + crap overclocking then :( It doesn't exist if you want an Intel Lynnfield system sorry. Buy a cheap, second hand PCIe GPU? Mobo prices are going up with tax and components and P55 boards are being phased out this quarter, so act quickly :p
     
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    chrismarkham1982 Multimodder

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    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    you said you wanted to overclock but have spec the 2300 which doesnt ?

    oo also grab DDR 1600 as it same price as 1333 stuff
     
  8. chrismarkham1982

    chrismarkham1982 Multimodder

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    tbh on gpu is more important than the oc which is why ive gone for the sandy bridge also its 15quid extra for a matched pair 1600@1.5v from scan plus i like the idea of saving some pennies and getting a kick ass cpu in about a years time
     
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    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    chrismarkham1982 Multimodder

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    very true but im really starting to think about bringing my-self upto date i mean at the end of the day any of those systems will a massive step up from what im on now (e2200 @ 3ghz, xfx geforce 9300 + 4gb corsair ddr667) so i may as-well just go for the latest that i can afford, as for the ram although i would prefer 1.5v i also read somewhere that 1.65v ram is bad in terms of longevity with sandybridge cpu's is this right?
    appreciate all the replys im getting btw
     
  11. adam_bagpuss

    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    i havent heard anything like that not seen a report on bit-tech either when they tested lots of RAM for SB.

    i guess they are both a big step up but if i had X pounds to spend i would want the best system for the money which is the i5 760 thats overclocked not the 2300.
     
  12. chrismarkham1982

    chrismarkham1982 Multimodder

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    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-best-memory-for-sandy-bridge/2
    mentions about the ram at the bottom

    i defo appreciate what your saying and i totally agree, the problem with me tho is im a bit anal (no jokes please :) ) and ive always built my systems when the stuff im buying is starting to be replaced (finding the funds at the wrong time) so ive got it into my head that i want to upgrade to the newest tech out, the up shot is im always looking to upgrade if i have the cash no matter system ive got so going sandybridge will mean that i have a goal to save a few quid for the next year and sort either a whole new system again or a new mobo and cpu or just a new kick ass cpu
     
  13. bdigital

    bdigital Is re-building his PC again

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    I just got a basic PCI-GPU second hand for £7, and a slightly better one (geforce with 1gb memory) for £15.

    Just to give an example of a cheap GPU
     
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    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    i see about the RAM but the limits are within 0.5V which i agree is on the edge but within limits and anyone overclocking it shouldnt be an issue if they raise the Vcore slightly which would put it back well within safe margins.

    guess i can see the point though and it does consume less power. id still grab 1600mhz RAM though

    still its just under £30 for a 2500K which would offer heaps more performance wince it can be overclocked. not taking the 2500K would be insane
     
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    again i agree but £275 is the absolute limit of my budget if i could go any higher then the 2500k would be my choice but then its all depending on how ill get for e2200 with an ocz vendetta, an xfx geforce 9300 mobo and 2x2gb corsair ddr667 ram, ive factored getting around £75 for those 3 bits
     
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    adam_bagpuss Have you tried turning it off/on ?

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    personally id save up a little more its just not worth getting a 2300 over 2500K for £30 when there will be such a massive performance difference
     
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    bdigital Is re-building his PC again

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    I might be wrong, but i would hazzard a guess that about £55-£60 is more realistic for your existing parts (unless you find a local buyer which cancels out fee's & postage)

    Even then, i would urge you to hold of on your purchase until you can afford the 2500k.

    Reason being is that in a few years time you are going to be in the exact same position......Having to spend some money to upgrade, and deciding which parts to buy.

    But if you get the 2500k, you can get some free performance just by overclocking it. Its a much more long term solution that gives you a free performance boost just when you need it.
     
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    =DJ= Torturing x86 since '86

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    Chris has chosen an H67 board which IIRC doesn't allow proper overclocking, so a K chip would be wasted in there! (I didn't read up on H67 boards at all, so I could be completely wrong!)

    Gigabyte and MSI both do entry P67 boards around the tonne (about £15 more than the MSI H67 board) so actual cost of going the K route is £45 plus whatever one does about GPUs...

    Yes that's more...but to my mind it's still a no brainer :rock:
     
  19. chrismarkham1982

    chrismarkham1982 Multimodder

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    defo a no brainer ill admit but its 40 quid outside my budget unfortunately not forgetting the gpu which i refuse to buy 2nd hand and i need the pc pretty much as soon as i get paid on 1st feb (wont go into reasons) if i could wait i would get the 2500k and a p67 board but unfortuantely i cant but after seeing some of the benchmarks results of all the sandybridge cpu's i have to say im not overly upset about having to get the 2300, its still a very very capable cpu and will feel a million miles ahead of oc'd pentium e2200 lol
     
  20. okenobi

    okenobi What's a Dremel?

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    Chris, last night I built something for a mate's 17yr old for college.

    Antec 300
    Truepower New 650
    Asus P8H67-M Pro
    2500 (only because the 2300 was out of stock)
    4gig XMS3
    F3 1TB
    Quality retail Plextor Lightscribe burner
    OEM 7 x64

    Although we only had time for assembly last night and not install, I will say that I dislike the pushpins on the Intel stock cooler, but the motherboard looks very tidy and was cheap in a bundle on Today only on Scan. Even normal price is only £80. I did plenty of reading and honestly, if you're going H67, mobo features are largely irrelevant as the chipset does not provide. Intel, you are GAY for this.

    Total for everything was less than £550. His mate just spent £450 on some C2D POS from Tesco! I could let you know how the board works out when we turn her on later in the week?
     

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