Development **** IE7

Discussion in 'Software' started by Millusdk, 13 Apr 2008.

  1. Millusdk

    Millusdk What's a Dremel?

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    God damn i hate IE7... I have played around with some CSS in Firefox, and the moment i checked it in IE7, the page was totally broken :wallbash::waah:.
    Why can't Microsoft just implement those god damn webstandarts!!! They are called STANDARTS for a reason...
     
  2. mutznutz

    mutznutz Cos Ive got a beard u label me evil

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    bring on ie8 ... which apparently will be :D
     
  3. notatoad

    notatoad pretty fing wonderful

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    huh? whats a standart?
     
  4. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    Which means exactly what? There are still people using IE5.5.
     
  5. mutznutz

    mutznutz Cos Ive got a beard u label me evil

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    I read that ie8 will be standards compliant ... thats what I meant

    Apologies
     
  6. notatoad

    notatoad pretty fing wonderful

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    but what firehed meant was that no matter how standards compliant ie8 is, you still have to support all the users still using ie7 (and 6, and 5.5), so ie8 isn't going to solve anything.
     
  7. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    'standard' comes from the French 'estandart', some countries haven't changed it as much as others. Thought you Canindians would be familiar with the Romance language. :p

    All this could have been avoided by letting Microsoft set the standards, you know it makes sense. :nono:
     
  8. Firehed

    Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match.

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    Well yeah, but we weren't exactly given a whole lot of choice in the matter. And in any case, they didn't set the standards - they just force us to deal with it because of their insanely high market share.

    supertoad - exactly.
     
  9. Matticus

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    Yeah I too have this problem, was just making a site for my degree, and I end up making it, and then making it again so it works in IE, then it doesnt look right in firefox so it needs to be changed AGAIN.

    Also they wont change to ie 7 there, so it all has to be compatable with ie 6, and they wont let you use firefox, but one very nice teacher/tutor told me the proxy settings so I could actually use a good browser :lol:

    One thing thats annoying is some transparency and style codes where one will work in firefox but not ie, and one will work in ie but not firefox, so everyone is doubling up the code so it works in both, which really isnt the best idea. And to make matters worse the sites have to work in both ie 6 and firefox perfectly.

    Also you might want to try this http://validator.w3.org/, just to make sure your code is up to scratch
     
  10. mutznutz

    mutznutz Cos Ive got a beard u label me evil

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    I realise this, plus now with safari on xp too it'll be even worse
     
  11. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    I think I'd be a terrible website designer/builder/webmaster... First I wouldn't bother even checking if the site works with browsers other than FF and if someone came to tell me about the site being totally broken on his IE, I'd respond that trees are also hard to cut down using a herring - get the right tool for the job in hand.

    Now that I think of it, the same reason that would make me a bad web-developer also applies to all other professions that include working with other people...
     
  12. mutznutz

    mutznutz Cos Ive got a beard u label me evil

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    Thought I was going wrong somewhere hehe :D
     
  13. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    The web "standards" aren't that standardised, Firefox is probably the worse browser to web develop in because it's too leaniant (sp?) with the standards and compensates for too many developer mistakes.
     
  14. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant Minimodder

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    The acid test (google it) is a good test for standards compliance. Opera has no problem with it, firefox does pretty well and ie? well i think you can guess....
     
  15. Millusdk

    Millusdk What's a Dremel?

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    IE7 can't even run the newest ACID test :D
     
  16. ChaosDefinesOrder

    ChaosDefinesOrder Vapourmodder

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    That's because Opera has always been 100% standards compliant with no exception from the start as a bit of a "design feature" if you will. I love Opera, have been using it for a while now (especially like how email is integrated into the one program and it's IMPOSSIBLE for pop-up ads to open as it takes a lot of effort to open a new window instead of a tab even manually!:thumb:) but the thing that annoys me is when some bugger has optimised the page for IE6 only, and the page comes up broken because the standards haven't been used.

    Just putting a disclaimer of "this page works best at 1024x768 on IE6+" isn't good enough!:nono:
     
  17. Dizman

    Dizman What's a Dremel?

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    Even if it is their own fault for making a mess of the standards (or is it standarts?), I applaud MS for providing us with conditional comments.
     

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