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I'm 20 but alcohol induced memory loss is becoming frequent!!

Discussion in 'General' started by Mighty Yoshimi, 7 Aug 2008.

  1. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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    I think you should double the amount you drink.
     
  2. Timmy_the_tortoise

    Timmy_the_tortoise International Man of Awesome

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    Drink? Pah! He should eat solid ethanol... -114 degrees isn't too cold.
     
  3. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant Minimodder

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    2 pints is not considered binge drinking. getting to the stage where cant even spell your own mouth (i love Dylan Moran) is.

    Who exactly is trying to "get people to stop drinkning"? As Many people have said before there is nothing wrong with drinking in moderation, when your idea of fun is to get paralytically drunk then in my opinion you have a problem.

    A proper diet implies that you not only eat well but drink well aswell. High alchohol intake has been proven to be detrimental to your health. And maybe at the moment you are fit and healthy, but it will catch up with you, seriously.
     
  4. freedom810

    freedom810 Minimodder

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    This thread reminds me of my brothers.
    When will they learn....
     
  5. Thacrudd

    Thacrudd Where's the any key?!?

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    peer pressure is not an excuse. I bet you're pretty broke too. Slow you're drinking down, you're killing yourself and anyone who loves you. Or spend your money on computer parts instead, that's what I did to get out of my bad habits many years ago :D
     
  6. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    QFT.

    Sorry if I sound callous, Yoshi (but that's how I am so that's how it comes out :p ), but you are making excuses and putting the responsibility of your actions on someone else ("If only my mates wouldn't peer-pressure me..."). Yeah, nothing is more boring than being sober and watching your mates get pissed. Then again, nothing is more boring than someone pissed. There ought to be a lesson there... Perhaps you're just hanging out with boring people who only know how to have a good time by getting pissed together. I can think of better company.

    In any case, the choice lies with you: fry your brain (and liver) further so you can hang with your pissed mates, or stop binge drinking and find mates who are less dependent on alcohol to socialise. A mate who needs you to be drunk is not a mate.
     
  7. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Sounds like the perfect temperature for ice cream!
     
  8. Lynx

    Lynx What's a Dremel?

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    Shippo. I cannot describe how misguided the idea that drinking large quantities of alcohol does not shorten your life is. If you have ever been into a hospital and seen the people with liver failure you would know it is not a nice way to die.

    http://www.cwu.edu/~bergmane/images/Normal%20Liver,%20Fatty%20Liver,%20and%20Cirrhosis.GIF

    That is what alcohol does to your liver (left one is normal, middle is moderate fatty liver and right is cirrhosis) and hospitals are now seeing people in their 20s with liver damage like the above. If you think that binge drinking is just a name to stop people drinking you would be right. But the reason you should stop drinking so much is to stop people ending up dead!

    I'm sure if you went to your GP and had Liver Function tests run it would show liver damage. You would not feel it because the liver has excess capacity but it will be there if you drink as much as you say. It is entirely your choice how much you choose to drink but by giving you some of the facts I hope you will decide to drink less.
     
  9. C-Sniper

    C-Sniper Stop Trolling this space Ądmins!

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    I think the best idea is to just bring maybe $15 for drinks then after that water (it's free!) you will notice that spending will decrease and that you will start remembering things. If you feel like the pressure is too much then just leave. If your friends call you a ***** for not drinking then tell them to **** off.
     
  10. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    You know, seeing that picture, I'm glad my idiotic spending stops me drinking more than once or twice a month..
     
  11. Burnout21

    Burnout21 Is the daddy!

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    You muppet!
     
  12. Timmy_the_tortoise

    Timmy_the_tortoise International Man of Awesome

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    Same, glad I quit entirely now.
     
  13. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Ooh, this one is a classic. :D

    The myths:

    1. "There is no such thing as binge drinking".
    2. "I can drink X ammounts of alcohol and it never did me any harm"
    3. "Getting pissed is just getting pissed, innit? Hangovers and memory loss are normal."
    4. "As long as you eat proper and exercise, alcohol can't harm you".

    The reality:

    1. It is true that there is a lack of consensus on what is the maximum safe level of units per week, and how mauch in a single session constitutes "binge drinking". But luckily, we can keep it simple: your liver can shift 1 unit of alcohol per hour. Put in more units than that over that time span, and it gets extended playtime in your body: you get drunk. We can talking about binge drinking when you drink past the point of starting to get drunk.

    Alcholol is neurotoxic (you get drunk for a reason: it is called alcohol poisoning). It disrupts brain function, thus leading to behavioural problems such as loss of inhibition (fights, risk taking, making a tit of yourself, unprotected sex), memory black-outs, unconsciousness, coma, and even death. Vomiting while unconscious can lead to death by asphyxiation (suffocation). Binge drinking also acutely increases blood platelet aggregation which increases the risk of thrombotic stroke.

    2. Research shows that over the longer term, even binge drinking does damage. After one month you can put on half a stone in weight; continuous drinking for as little as two months can produce deficits in learning and memory, planning, abstract reasoning, inhibition or delayed responding, doing two things at once and shifting between activities, that last up to 12 weeks after drinking has stopped. After six months liver function and memory are significantly affected. Long - term effects beyond that are particularly a higher risk for developing heart disease, high blood pressure, and diabetes. High alcohol intake has been shown to decrease blood testosterone in men, and also increase cortisol levels, which can lead to visceral fat accumulation and impotence.

    Research shows that when you drink is more important than how much you drink over a lifetime. People who were alcoholic when young experience fewer ngative health effects than people who drank the same ammount, over the same period of time, at an older age. Nevertheless, this period of grace wears off rather suddenly after age 25. Moreover, lasting brain damage is more likely to occur in a young drinker than someone who started at an older age when the brain has already matured.

    3. Drunkenness (or hangover) are not normal states for the body. Basically, drunkenness is alcohol disrupting neurological function. First the higer functions go (inhibition, reasoning), then the reflexes slow and finally, the brain stem is affected causing unconsciousness and coma, and if you're really lucky, atrial fibrillation which (if the resulting blood cloths don't cause a thrombotic stroke first) can develop into ventricular fibrillation, i.e. cardiac arrest. That is, if you haven't passed out in your own vomit first, or had your head kicked in by some other drunken ned. Young people do die from a heavy night out --come and have a look at your local A&E sometime.

    4. Although obesity is a much greater health risk factor than drinking or smoking, (otherwise) clean living is not enough to compensate for binge drinking, just as it does not compensate for smoking. It also makes it more difficult: alcohol gives you the munchies because it disrupts your blood sugar metabolism. Coupled with a loss of inhibition that may mean greasy late night kebabs that you really did not mean to have.

    Exercise can compensate for the effects of alcohol to some extent. However the reality is that even young, fit people who binge drink are adversely affected, and that people who maintain a healthy lifestyle watch how much they drink.
     
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  14. eek

    eek CAMRA ***.

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    For anyone else digging themselves an early grave, I'll see you at GBBF tonight... (and tomorrow, and saturday)!
     
  15. Blarte

    Blarte Moderate Modder

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    lol

    :confused: why didnt you just write SEE RONNIE WOOD for example. mind yuo he is having a great time of it
     
  16. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    "All this about alcohol shortening your life too is crap imo."

    and that, ladies and gentlemen, is the most suitable example of an "Opinion" i have ever come across.
     
  17. Blarte

    Blarte Moderate Modder

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    (fights, risk taking, making a tit of yourself, unprotected sex), Nexxo Sounds like a great night out count me in .. who else is going ?
     
  18. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant Minimodder

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    what we are saying shouldnt be misunderstood as "dont drink", i love having a drink with mates, i also enjoy getting tipsy/mildly drunk. I just don't like overdoing it.

    To use an analogy... I like a slice of chocolate cake, i rarely have 2 slices and i think that eating the entire thing isnt good for you.

    I'll be there saturday if i can get off work :)
     
  19. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

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    you know, that argument wont work anymore, the cost of living is going up everyday, the majority of people wont have any sort of saving for when they are old anyway, so does it really matter anymore if everyone who earns below lets say 30k£ per year actually lives healthy at all?

    @op, stop drinking, better yet, stop going out all together until you have real friends who you can be together even if not drunk.
     
  20. badders

    badders Neuken in de Keuken

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    People actually go out more than 3 times a year?
     

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