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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Mister_Tad, 5 May 2006.

  1. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    I find a full back up of both drives to my big Icy Box every 2 days enough for me. Nothing changes that much over a 48 hour period, and my mail is kept on the server for 5 days after download. Never had a problem with that, and the ICy Box is only used for back... nothing else, so reliability of the drive in teh Icy Box isn't a problem... it's a Seagate anyway, so no worries there.

    ....but what if..... :hehe:

    Not even going there, or I end up as paranoid as Mr Tad.
     
  2. tank_rider

    tank_rider What's a Dremel?

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    I take a backup of all my work and photos whenever they change significantly to the server and my media pc, then once a month to dvd. I've also got a copy of my work on the pc at home whenever i go home from uni.

    Not really excessive as i can't afford to loose any data at this point of the year.
     
  3. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Oh... I'll add that the Icy Box is kept in a different place to the PC... so if the house burns down, I've got my data.
     
  4. MrWillyWonka

    MrWillyWonka Chocolate computers galore!

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    It always has to burn down doesn't it? What about flood, hurricane, tornado, earthquake, volcano, burgular, tsunami, power surge, lightning strike, maniac with hammer, gas explosion, spilt coffee, bailiffs, forensic examiners, semen?

    I almost edited your post, must remember to use the quote button!
     
  5. RotoSequence

    RotoSequence Lazy Lurker

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    If you want to take it to an ultimate extreme, take it to a datacenter (or several) in collocated boxes and have them insured :p
     
  6. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    I'll not ask the obvoius. I'll just defend your lifestyle choices as part of our free society and not judge you. :hehe:
     
  7. RotoSequence

    RotoSequence Lazy Lurker

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    Its involved with an older thread about a guy who b0rked his new 6800 with an unattentive wanking session :duh: :hehe:
     
  8. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    And he admited to it? Respect... LOL

    Getting back on topic tho. I think for most home users, a twice weekly back up, kept off site, is secure enough. If you game a lot, you may want a nightly incremental for your saved games, which makes keeping teh drives off site less practical of course, but I still think a huge, external drive is all you need. The chances of both drives going down at the same time are pretty low.
     
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  9. chemo

    chemo True Jungle Brother

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    mister_tad, what sort of stuff are you making backups of? is it business stuff or something?
     
  10. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    Tut Tut, never ask a guy the contents of his hard disk ;)
     
  11. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    p0rrrrnnnn!!!!111111!!!!!

    :hehe:
     
  12. RotoSequence

    RotoSequence Lazy Lurker

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    Or music, movies (family made, family friendly, or neither and utterly opposite of any of those ideals), and photographs can take up quite a bit of hard drive space and be very valuable to the end user. I doubt it would all be pr0n ;)
     
  13. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead It's big, and it's clever.

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    Obviously not, no.

    Seriously... when you stop and think about it, you have so much stuff that's pretty much irreplaceable. I was discussing this with Mrs Pook not long ago, and it became apparent that a large and important part of our lives is stored as data now: Photos, music, personal and business details and documents, banking, e-mails, web sites... the list goes on. To have all that stuff, with no back-up strategy is actually quite scary. I can well understand Tad's extreme efforts... unnecessary perhaps.. going to those lengths, but he gets no crticism for it from me. How many times have we all seen the "How do I recover my data"? type threads?

    Norton Ghost, external drive.... sorted.
     
  14. ozstrike

    ozstrike yip yip yip yip

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    Important stuff like coursework is on main PC, laptop, DVD backup, and a USB pendrive.
    My music is on my main PC, my mp3 player, and my backup computer. I'd hate to lose that.
    There aren't really any pictures or stuff that I care so much about, really. Other than that, there's some other useful files, don't really care too much about game saves either.
    What worries me is my parent's backup. THey just don't do it. Considering they run a couple of businesses from home, they really should be, especially when all the data is on a laptop in a laptop hard drive. Hopefully with a bit of persuasion, I could get some form of RAID array in the server PC :p
     
  15. Mister_Tad

    Mister_Tad Will work for nuts Super Moderator

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    a lot of you are posting as if to say "how can you be bothered by all that", in truth, it really isnt any hassle.

    An image is taken of my system drive every day, automatically
    the weekly backups will simply, when they are due to run, prompt me to insert a tape, it will do its stuff in the background, this is for both the full system backup and incremental data backups (which tend to be quite small as a lot of it doesnt change much)
    With regards to the full monthly backup, it simply kicks off and asks for a tape, when it has filled it it asks for another one etc, if I'm in I just check on it every so often and chuck a tape in when it needs it, if I'm not it times out and i just restart it when I get back to the pc.
    Other things which I consider to be very important, but dont change much, are chucked on a DVD at home, at work and at my parents place in the states, this is done once in a blue moon, whenever I feel that I have enough stuff that isn't backed up.
    I have a hot-spare because I have a mistrust of hard drives, and if I'm away for a few days and a drive goes down I'd rather not have the array running in a degraded state for too long (meaning that another disk crash takes everything down). I have it notify me of a disk crash so I can sort out a replacement as soon as possible (that, and because something about my RAID controller texting me to let me know that a drive died is really cool :D )

    What do I back up? all sorts. Important documents, system disk, photos, financial information, various bits of work, everything (no porn thank you very much :p ). A lot of you claim that you dont have anything worth backing up, thats fair enough if its true, but I have a feeling most of you would change your tune if you lost everything

    What I do is probably excessive, but its no hassle to keep up once everything is set up so why not? There is more than one occasion in years past when something or other has hosed my entire system drive, and having everything back to the way it was within 15 mins is something I'll bet very few of you can manage ;)

    I did think about getting my stuff added to our nightly backups at work (we send around 300-400 tapes offsite every morning for 2 weeks, and will soon be real-time mirroring the entire datacentre at another site) but apparently its an audit risk :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Goreblast

    Goreblast What's a Dremel?

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    What tape drive do you use?
     
  17. Tomm

    Tomm I also ride trials :¬)

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    I sporadically back up to DVD all my music, videos and photos. Any important work backed up to USB keys. Maybe one day I'll think about getting a more reliable system going, but as it stands there's not a whole lot of information I would cry about losing. It's happened before - My laptop got stolen 6 months ago and I lost a fair amount of work.
     
  18. webbyman

    webbyman Hax.

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    i never realy take photos :( which i know i will regret later in life.... anyway...

    loosing photos forever is a bit harsh if they ment something...

    and i don't realy do backups :O
     
  19. Hazza

    Hazza What's a Dremel?

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    Impressive backup routine mr tad! Im fairly sure I couldn't be arsed with anything quite that extravagent, but having lost LOTS of stuff once after a cockup with fdisk.exe, I totally understand!

    For me, most of the machines in my house don't really have a secure way of backing up to themselves. However, each machine has a system image on a seperate partition, and a copy of this image on one of the other machines too. One pc is used for storage and has a copy of just about everything from all the other pc's. Not ideal, but as best I can do with such a limited budget.
     
  20. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Harddisks are not backup
    Harddisks are not backup
    Harddisks are not backup
    Harddisks are not backup
    Harddisks are not backup
    Harddisks are not backup
    Harddisks are not backup

    :(

    I just lost 50 files because of a file system error which I then unknowingly copied to my "backup" backup drive. Luckily the anime is still unlisenced and I can download it but it's going to take an entire week and I dont know exactly which drive is affected.
    The problem with RAID1 is that if one disk is funny, gets a file system error but doesnt die that error is then replicated to the OTHER, perfectly fine disk during the "recovery" stage. Instead of just loosing the file, I now have random 0kb files where they were a few hundred megs.

    I think I need that tape drive now.
     

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