The title says it all, i am starting a "buisness" kinda at my school where i build comps for peopl. I have two people wanting to play the newer games that are out right now and i have some questions about what to do. First person:This person just wants to play some of the new game at decent settings, cs:s, hl2, and some others and his budget is $700 to $750 max, usd. right now he has this comp and im guessing that i cannot use any of the old parts right? so now i am stuck. i have chosen this ram, a s939 3200+ venice, then some 80gig segate hd. i was wondering if i should go with a s939 shuttle with agp and a 9800pro or go with a sli board for upgrades in the future. He doesnt need a monitor, keyboard, or mouse. but the best parts $700-750 can buy. Second person: this person has a ****** dimension 4500. he wants to play cod2 and has $200 usd max to spend? Should he get a gig of ram and a new gpu, fx5000 series or 9600-9800 (agp 4x). or could i even help him out sense he has a dell? thanks for your help f.b.
No offense, but if you wanna make your own business. Your not even close to being on the right track. For the first guy, you can reuse his current hdd. You could get a 3500+ with a cheaper SLI board, then get a gig or two of decent ram, Doesn't need to be somethign like balistix cause it doesn't seem you guys eally know how to over clock yet, but I could be wrong. Thats all I'll say, I'll let the real pros help you. P.S. In MY OPINION You've got alot to learn before you start telling people you can build them pcs. Good luck.
You could use the HDD, floppy drive and optical drives from this machine, but that's about it. The RAM will be slow, the power supply too low rated (and possibly proprietary) and the graphics card, well... crap. If you are looking for upgradability, scrap the idea of anything nF3 with AGP. Newer graphics cards will not come with an AGP interface - PCI-E is the way forward. I'd purchase a good 939 board with PCI Express and an X800GTO. Alternatively, a cheaper SLI board with a card such as a vanilla 6800 would work, but keep in mind that if you choose this route, you'll have to purchase a card that is already a generation behind - adding another still won't bring it up to what the top cards are today. Dells... notoriously hard to upgrade. Definitely get a gig of RAM, it'll help no end in anything. With regards to the graphics cards, if it has AGP, a 9800Pro would fit the bill nicely. You must be careful, however, because the power supply might not be up to it, and older Dells use non-standard supplies. You should be OK, but if you are suffering from crashes or reboots, my first suspect would be the PSU. Check it's not proprietary and replace if necessary (if it is, you can buy adapters).
just a small point, if you want to do this as a source of income or a "business", then you should really know what youre doing without having to ask on forums
thanks for the help, so what do i need to learn? you seem so smart and really good with technology. with in the price limit. and im guessing since he has a $700 budget he wont be over clocking. and i said "buisness" because im just trying to get some extra money as a 16 year building comps for friends at highschool. so any real help?
try to follow hardware sites... I'm all in the pitch black about graphics cards and processors right now due to not having enought time to roam around on the hardware sites like bit-tech and thg etc.
ok i shouldt have used the word "buisness." also i know about hardware i was just trying to get a second opinion and people started bitching at me how i should know this or that. thanks hitman for the help.
hm bitching? i think its called advising you before you give the 1st guy a computer that doesn't suit his needs. Read up on the gfx and see what settings the games could run at with each gfx then tell your mate and see what he wants to buy...long winded maybe but if hes paying you, you have to be able to provide good info.
i would call it that when people say im stupid or say i dont know what im talking about, and that i cant do this or that, then they dont say anything else. my first post says that the first person would like decent settings while the second person just wants to be able to play the new games, so about medium settings for both of them would be nice. i think that a xfx 6800gs fits this for the first person while a 9800pro or so would work for the second person.
amen to that, the X800GTO is one hell'va a gfx card for the money. Also a 9800 pro ? and a fx5000 on agp X4, are you serious, you could just about play hl2 with that but its no where near powerful enough for newergames I've tied making my own business before (I'm 14 ), the rig I have atm was going to be sold four months ago but it never happened...
his parents wont let him upgrade to a whole new comp because his parents said "when you go to college in two years you will have to upgrade again." so he is stuck with dell and 4x agp and wanting to play cod2. also what would be of a better value a xfx 6800gs or a x800gto. im guessing that the 6800gs is better. i will do some research about it, read the 6800gs article again and find some stuff off google. thanks fb
I really dont think you should be building computers for people unless you really know what you're doing. The next guy who comes to you may want a high end gaming rig based on a DFI board, with CPU and GPU watercooling... then what you gonna do? Unless you know what you're doing, you're screwed. I've been building computers for over a decade, and this rig took me around 2 months to iron out all the problems!! The closer to the edge you go, the harder it is to get things right. SPend some time in here... ask questions.. read posts... search the web... read, study... If it's in your interest to do so, you can learn pretty much everything you need to know, but DON'T go around telling people you can build them PCs if you need to come on here and ask what parts you need to best spend $750. You should know that already.. that's why he came to you. I'm not being nasty... I'm doing you a favour.
i know how to build comps. whats up with you guys saying that i dont know what im doing, i might not be able to watercool somehting but that doesnt mean i dont know what i am doing when it comes to not watercooling.Also no one is asking for watercooling right now and if someone did i would not help them. i know what i can and cant do. all i ask if for part recomendations and i think that every does this at least once, not be roasted by people that dont know who i am. all i do is read post here every day and on other forums but i do not see many post about bugdet gaming rigs especially one with a $750 limit. im just trying to firgure out what some of the chabudget parts are. so in your opinion how am i not able to do this? because i obviously said something that makes you guys believe this. maybe i should not have said business, more of like helping some one out, like mowing someones lawn. im not trying to make a lawn mowing buisness but help someone out every once and a while. i will admit that i should have posted exactly what i had in mind for him. since i have been working since thanksgiving on this, but school and sports have not allowed me to put some of my free time into researching parts. maybe i should have stated the beggining of this post differently and that is my fault, but you do not need to call me out and say that i have no buisness doing this since you do not know me. and every one is always learning and right now im trying to figure out what are the best budget parts out there. i apologize for this. im sure you were once unsure of what to do and you asked for help and this is all i have done. just in case you guys did not realize that my response to sk8phreak88 comment was sarcasm i will bold the part that was:
YOUr kind of missing the point they are trying to say. There not saying you are a complete noob at building computers. THere just saying get more experience in computers before you go off trying to setup any sort of a business off selling/ building computers. ITs more of constructive criticism. Dont jump to the conclusion that we are being aces and saying you are stupid they are just trying to say dont jump into something if you dont have all the facts. Oh and i dont understand the 16 year computer sentence. You saying you have 16 years experience or was that the sarcasm bit.
i was saying that im that i am 16 years old, i forgot to right 'years old' in that post my fault, so not trying to start an actual buisness. just maybe help some kids out at school everyonce and a while.saying that i need to do more research and that i should not be doing this is saying that im a complete noob. mods delete this thread, it is just causing problems.
To be honest, I'm sorry mate, but, if you can't spec the parts, you shouldn't be doing the business. What if someone had a problem and your internet connection was down? If you have no-one but yourself to turn to, you need to know, if people are paying you, that you can solve it, you seem not to be at that stage, sorry
did you not read two or three post above, i have been researching parts for a while!! and this is what im talking about i just ask for help and people say you cant do it. and its not a buisness, but more of like helping someone out. thats why in my first post i wrote "BUISNESS".
Im also 16 and have tried doing somthing similar at my high school, however I was confident enough to build several computers and sell them without consulting a forum. The market for this is very small. Most people dont know the difference between a built system and a dell, which is why there is no money in it. I would also steer clear of this idea for a while since you have displayed that you are a bit imature for this sort of work, if you built a system for someone and they said it was crap and demanded their money back you wouldent be able to throw a tantrum and say they were "bitching". Give it a few years.
