Insight into Shiite anger toward U.S.

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  1. Gooey_GUI

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    Iraqi trial rekindles Shiite anger toward U.S.


    :idea: Talk about the US digging a hole in Iraq. Chances are that it keeps getting deeper, but hasn't the population of Iraq seen the 1999 movie "Three Kings" yet? :eyebrow:
     
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    No, they've lived it. But they're the extras that nobody gives a damn about in the credits.

    Anyway, it's nice to see people starting to get an appreciation of the dynamics in the Middle East, and Western complicity in it. We've been digging that hole for decades, and now we've fallen in we realise it's too deep to get back out.
     
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    So some Iraqi's are pissed off at the US because one group of Iraqi's killed another group of Iraqi's ?

    Talk about Iraq digging a hole for itself.


    Yes this is a gross over simplification of the events, but lets get real for a second and lets agree Iraq also needs to help it's self, continually blaming the US won't help.
    I agree there is a feeling of betrayal from the first Gulf Was when the Shiites beleved the US would assist, but the simple truth is we have a country with two rival religious groups who hate each other, go religion.
     
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    True in part, but let's look a bit further:

    - The US helped Saddam into the saddle. That makes it in part responsible for his tyranny.
    - The US kept Saddam in the saddle. That makes it in part responsible for his continued tyranny.
    - The US sold weapons to Iraq and Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. That makes it in part responsible for keeping a war going that has cost millions of lives.
    - The US ambassador told Saddam to go ahead, take Kuwait, we don't care. Hmmm... callousness or entrapment?
    - The US, when it had Saddam cornered in Bagdad during Gulf War I suddenly says: "Wouldn't it be nice if the Iraqi people overthrew Saddam?". Given the context and timing in which this was said, Kurds and Shiites could be forgiven for thinking that the US was going to get involved (why not? It had involved itself in everything else).
    - The US and UN inflict canctions which can reasonably hurt nobody but the innocent population, then circumvents it with illegal oil deals.
    - The US has now removed Saddam from power and left a power vacuum Iraq more unstable than it ever was before.

    So it's kind of understandable if the Iraqi do not feel in a good place with the US right now...

    You are right that Iraq needs to help itself, because nobody from abroad is motivated by Iraqi interests. But various Western countries have been doing their best to stir things up in the Middle East whenever they can.
     
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    The movie has an ending that is pure fiction in that it depicts a small group of Iraqi villagers receiving rescue by the US. Plus, they each were given some gold bars to boot. That is some real fantasy there.

    :sigh:
     
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    I admit I do not recall the ending very well (so I probably missed your sarcastic intent, sorry). Gotta love Hollywood...
     

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