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News Intel badmouths AMD's Epyc design

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by bit-tech, 13 Jul 2017.

  1. bit-tech

    bit-tech Supreme Overlord Lover of bit-tech Administrator

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  2. Wakka

    Wakka Yo, eat this, ya?

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    That's funny, because consumers, overclockers and reviewers alike all seem to be badmouthing Intel's latest (admittedly non-server) releases...

    And with the price-per-core ratio of Epyc VS Skylake-SP, I'd wager a few people will be badmouthing those parts too.
     
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    Maki role Dale you're on a roll... Lover of bit-tech

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    Did they have a slide about their thermal toothpaste they use?
     
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  4. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Bad move in how they expressed themselves, they may as well have said 'waaah they're stinky poo pants and it scares us'.
     
  5. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Intel: You don't want that... it's just 2 [or 4] CPUs glued together...

    Tech History: You mean like your early dual and quad core parts?
     
  6. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    Aren't Intel doing the exact same thing anyway? Just calling it a mesh rather than using what AMD is doing with their Infinity Fabric.

    Intel are just resorting to this because they know AMD has got them by the balls.
     
  7. David

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    Which is exactly what the strap line in the article said.
     
  8. yuusou

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    I like how AMD just ignores this and announces Ryzen 3 and Threadripper, where Threadripper pricing is well below i9 and Ryzen 3 has 4 cores instead of 2c/4t.
     
  9. David

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    If your opponent is on his knees in the mud, why would you willingly join him?
     
  10. Wakka

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    It's funny how AMD can be running rings around Intel in terms of matching their release schedules, beating them in efficiency and value for money, but so far behind Nvidia on the GPU front... I'm really starting to suspect that they just did not have the resources and R&D manpower to fight both fronts. Hopefully now Ryzen, Epyc and Threadripper are done and ready, they can get to work on catching up in GPU development. Can you imagine what we'd paying for a GTX 1080 today if Vega was as competitive in comparison as Ryzen was compared to Kabylake?!
     
  11. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Could well be, I'll guess we'll see in a few weeks. I'm not expecting a Ryzen-esque impact in the GPU market but if they can at least compete it's good all round. Maybe they'll then be able to throw all their weight into the GPU battle now their CPU arm is down pat. I could carry on guessing really.
     
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    As you've correctly stated, you never fight a war on two fronts...

    To be able to smack Intel in the love sacks is amusing enough though (and long overdue) ;)
     
  13. edzieba

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    Threadripper/Epyc has three separate inter-core 'tiers': inside the same CCX (fast), between CCXs on the same physical die (not very fast), and between physical dies (not fast at all).
    Skylake-SP and Skylake-X are all single-die devices. Even the 'slowest' communication latency between cores on opposite corners of the mesh is faster than inter-CCX communication.
     
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