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News Intel hits microprocessor shipment high

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  1. Gareth Halfacree

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  2. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    To think Intel biggest embarrassment is a revenue of just $1 million in one of it's divisions, while AMD is laying of staff.
     
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    Intel will need to donate AMD some more rescue funds before too long.
     
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    Troglodyte What's a Dremel?

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    Any chance Intel could make an offer for AMD ?
     
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  5. Gareth Halfacree

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    Not a one. Intel's got a problem on its hands: if AMD goes bust, its one major competitor in the x86 market has disappeared and the US government will break Intel up into separate companies - becoming its own competitors, basically - to avoid a monopoly. Equally, Intel can't buy AMD, 'cos the newly-formed single company would be a monopoly and get broken up. So, all it can do is cross its fingers, allow AMD market share in less critical areas (notice how AMD has a stronger presence in entry-level laptops than Intel, can be found in next-gen consoles and how Intel doesn't have any discrete GPU products despite having spent billions on the Larrabee project to design exactly that) and as hinted at above potentially invest cash in the company in exchange for a minor short-term share to get it out of the mire if things get particularly bad.
     
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  6. rollo

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    Intel a few year back give AMD $1Bil give or take as part of a payment for breaking something or other the fact was as most market people said they had broken no such rule and were just paying them to stay affloat. Think Intels Stated reason for payment was Market Manipulation.

    Nothing stopping them giving them another $1bil for something or other just to keep them affloat. If they go bankrupt then Intel will be broken into 3 seperate companies a Fab Company and Desktop / Laptop CPU company and the Server side of the business.
     
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    gholy **** did you really say that??

    http://www.cnet.com/news/intel-to-pay-amd-1-25-billion-in-antitrust-settlement/

    intel got sued and are still being sued for anti competitive practises world wide - the money they paid AMD was a fie ; likewise the money they paid the EU et al is the same.
     
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    The fact they agreed to pay with no real attempt to not pay. Intel even got a tax reduction for making the payment. There's other posts made on the financial sites at the time that said Intel got a pretty decent deal out of the transaction. The payments also relate to issues made in 2004 when they were meant to be been evil.

    5-6 years later they pay of AMD at a time when they were struggling. It'd what sites like Forbes and business insider where reporting at the time.
     
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    http://www.extremetech.com/computin...for-unfair-and-damaging-practices-against-amd
     
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  10. Gareth Halfacree

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    That's how finances work, chap. A company pays tax on its profit, not its revenue. Profit is revenue minus expenses. A fine is an expense. If I have pre-fine profit of $10M then pay a $1M fine, I will pay tax on $9M - not $10M. The same would apply to anything I spent that $1M on - although if I bought equipment or stock with it, the value of said equipment or stock would be added to my company's value. See also companies and individuals who throw large amounts of money at charity, which has three benefits: does good, looks good, and reduces the tax they owe at the end of the financial year.

    In case that wasn't clear: your statement was phrased as though Intel got some special tax reduction as a result of paying the fine, which isn't true; Intel merely put the fine on its operating expenses, exactly the same as any other company would. At the end of the day, paying the fine meant that the company's profits dropped by far more than its tax bill - so it was a net negative for the company.
     
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  11. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    That's a seriously overdue parking ticket you have there Gareth. :D
     
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