Intel or AMD?

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by TekMonkey, 25 May 2004.

  1. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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    In that case I would recommend going with a P4 3.0C and a P4C800-E with a gig of OCZ PC3500 EB :)

    days rather than weeks, as I say... I'm currently testing socket 939 under NDA to give you an idea of how far away it is. ;)

    before anyone asks, I can't say anything about socket 939, or even release a picture until after the NDA is lifted, at that time, I will have my review published. :cooldude:
     
  2. rio2

    rio2 What's a Dremel?

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    for low cost buy a barton xp2500 and overclock ( look the sign ).for barton,mobo and fun 150€ :D:D:D
     
  3. Tim S

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    also check out some benchmarks....

    http://bit-tech.net/review/309

    FX-53, vs P4 3.2E vs. Barton 2500+ @ 2500MHz ;)
     
  4. M4d-K10wN

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    Yeah, but it's not important for me. I'd rather stay in 2-2-2-6 town :) .
     
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  6. Xen0phobiak

    Xen0phobiak SMEGHEADS!

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    You mentioned wanting to spend $110 on a motherboard, i checked the only main US site i know, and would reccomend this

    with either a 2.8 or 3.0c, some ocz 3500eb (must be dual channel)

    and the same heatsink as mr tad (cant remember the model number).
     
  7. Xen0phobiak

    Xen0phobiak SMEGHEADS!

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    running 2-2-2-6 gives you good memory bandwidth, you are contradicting yourself.
     
  8. unclean

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    methinks he (she?) was implying memory couldn't keep up 2-2-2-6 at high fsb.

    but BH-5 and OCZ EB would say otherwise "M4d-K10wN"
     
  9. 8-BALL

    8-BALL Theory would dictate.....

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    I would say late july early august for good availability.

    We should start seeing reviews quite soon, then it always takes a month or so for these things to filter down to the consumer level.

    The one review I've seen for a socket 939 athlon64 3800+ shows a 20% HIGHER memory bandwidth than an i875 with dual channel DDR400, and 8% higher than athlon FX.

    I'd say worth the wait personally.

    8-ball
     
  10. dastt

    dastt What's a Dremel?

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    i had a amd 2600 and i burnt it out, so i wanted to try pentium, so i got a 2.66 p4 and it blows my amd away.
     
  11. unclean

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    533mhz fsb variety? i doubt it blows any 2600+s away if so...

    and im sure your AMD wasnt being run properly if you managed to burn it out, it was probably being throttled to about 400mhz. :rolleyes:
     
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    Hmm? Last time I checked, EB had uber high speeds and uber high timings. Anyway, the guy has some PC4000 running at DDR612, and since we all know (hopefully) that there was never a PC4000-rated BH-5 stick, it must be something else. OCZ EB is as good a guess as any, but once again, last time I checked, those sticks had latency enough for ten CH-5 sticks.
     
  13. Tim S

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    staying in 2-2-2-6 town isn't necessarily the best thing known to man... sure 2-2-2-6 is great and it's as fast as it gets in terms of memory timings, but both intel and AMD systems don't seem to bother themselves running at CAS3.0 as to be quite honest, it makes pretty much sod all difference to performance; the increase you get from the increased front side bus will outweigh the performance loss of moving from CAS2.0 to CAS3.0. tRP and tRCD are important as I've suggested on many occasions, which is why I've recommended OCZ Enhanced Bandwidth memory.

    I still use BH-5 myself, but seeing as it's about as readily available as chocolate tea pots, it's really not worth talking about anymore IMHO. BH-6 is still around in limited supply, but that's going to be around for what, 4 months at most... by Christmas, there will be NO BH-5 or BH-6 available for people to buy, unless it is second hand.


    BH-5 is dying a long, painful death, so lets move on a bit, k?
     
  14. Tim S

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    BH-5.... it inspires awe and amazement, how outdated technology is better than anything new. Anyway, BH-6 is just shrunken BH-5 that needs more volts and better cooling, no? And It's still in production, according to Winbond.

    Anyway, you guys know anything about AH-6? We all know that BH-X >>> CH-X, so maybe the property extends ot the AH line as well? There aren't that many sticks of ram that use AH-6 chips, but there are some. For example:
    ADATA PC2700 (cl2,5) could be Winbond AH-6 or BH-6
    Meh.
     
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  17. Tim S

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    Winbond have pulled out of the memory market... they make compact flash cards now :rolleyes:

    and I'll say it again and highlight it with bold type if it wasn't clear the first time.... CAS makes sod all difference to performance for the increase in front side bus that you will get
     
  18. TekMonkey

    TekMonkey I enjoy cheese.

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    bigz: :read: I said $110 max for mobo, that one is about $160. If you see that mobo for that cheap let me know ;)

    I'm thinking about the ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe or the Abit A17.
     
  19. Tim S

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    :duh:

    I have a P4P800-E deluxe sitting here, not used it yet as I'm awaiting a processor. I'm assured that it's a good board though, so you won't go far wrong with it

    The AI7 is also a very good board, if you haven't read our review of it, go check it out ;)

    http://bit-tech.net/review/300/

    either of those boards are a great choice, they're made by great motherboard manufacturers and are packed with features. :thumb:
     
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    Damn, that's the worst news I've had in a while. Why would they do that??! Why?! That's just as stupid as discontinuing BH-5.
     

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